PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS

[billmehess]

Ah -- "excel60" in you email (thanks NP for the observation), leads one to do a search on youtube for excel60 ...
And we find an intriguing discussion of "water batteries"

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdWKfav5s_8

AND
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvNCrDTQZNk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Copper cathode and zinc-coated iron anode (galvanized).
(These can be purchased at larger hardware stores.)
And a few other interesting vids by excel60.

Did you do these "excel60" videos, Bill?   Thanks.

I think I see where you may be going with this so let me clarify a bit

All batteries require some kind of electrolyte to work , even the so called dry cell battery use an electrolyte in paste form.
Batteries have materials that are consumable
Lazerlight did some great work with a dry cell which had mgnesium strips interacting with a carbon center no electrolytes but the magnesium was consumable
Batteries increase in voltage when connected in series and in current (amperage) when connected in parallel.

My device:
No electrolyte
No Consumables
                                              New Information for all of you:

The individal modules increase in both amperage AND voltage when connected in parallel
There is a strong non moving mechanical component

[bolt]

GiantKiller you are 100% correct!  Any time you contract with a government dept or agency you have just given up all of your RIGHTS and converted them to restricted PRIVILEGES.   In effect  you have sold out when you contract to the government for anything. This includes so called health care and unemployment benefits or even to contract with them to hold a driving license. You need to know people the government in the US UK or almost anywhere do NOT represent the people they are corporations and are only interested in supporting their own interests as 100% commercial ventures.  Once you ask for a Patent you have just exchanged your invention and converted it to restricted contract privilege in other words you are now BEGGING to be allowed to use your invention alike a child asking for Candy! Be aware they can and often say NO to OU devices then you are totally 100% screwed as you just contracted with them by patent application and can be denied with the full force of the law under National Security.  This means they are afraid you will damage THEM the corporation as the Government of the United States has nothing to the with the people of the united states.

So you see GK is correct you become a Terrorist and so many people believe wrongly the Patriot Act is for terrorist running around in caves, setting off bombs on buses and hijacking planes but the real terrorist they are afraid is is the people of the united states becoming non compliant and thus a Terrorist by definition is one who disrupts "the system".  There is only one way.... FULL and open disclosure with nothing hidden whatsoever.

The bottom line is this you try to Patent an OU device then kiss your ass good bye it will NEVER see the light of day.

[ramset]

Steve,
Bill experiments with many different devices,this is no indication whatsoever of how this one works.

Bill ,
Knowing what a restless breed we are ,and since we have some time till the 30th [or 31st].
  If you had your druthers,what kind of discussions would you like to see here??

Sincerely,
Chet
PS
bolt ,Bill has just filed an application ,regardless on 8/30 2011
this will be open sourced ,after that it will be like trying to run around putting your hand over peoples nose and mouth and telling them to "fill out the paper work first" before they take a  breath.

A Moot point,at that point!

End of story...........

[e2matrix]

Why does this site always begin to turn so ugly.
I am not asking for anything from anybody.
Ramset must be your dream there are no batteries
The demo will take place on Aug 30 Wed.

Because there are paid trolls here as well as trolls who have a vested interest in keeping the oily polluted status quo.  And as someone else noticed also I'm sure you mean Aug 31st which is Wednesday and the date you originally posted.  Wish I could make it. 

   Bill seeing your last post regarding "New Information for all of you:
The individual modules increase in both amperage AND voltage when connected in parallel There is a strong non moving mechanical component." I have to ask if this has been validated.  I didn't want to bring up the error I saw in your Peltier thread but as was pointed out by many sharp members with anything I know of you can't connect individual components in series or parallel and get a multiplication of power like you were calculating in that thread.  If an individual component puts out .004 watts than 960 of them in series or parallel is going to be less than 4 watts not over 3600 watts as you had posted there.  At least unless you have figured out some way to bypass Ohms law and basic electrical laws.  I'm all for that if you have but I'm truly hoping this is not a calculation error.  I believe you really have something of great interest here so please don't take this in a bad way but I feel obligated to check this data since you have now posted that individual modules increase in both voltage and amperage when in parallel.  I may even be wrong here in assuming this is not possible under normal conditions much less whatever you have come up with but would be interested in any confirmation on these thoughts. 

[Pirate88179]

Bill:

Way to go man and best of luck with your discovery.  As you know, I have done some work in this area and I can't wait to see what you have come up with.

I have been working a lot and just now was able to find this topic.

Excellent that you are willing to share, that is very cool.

Bill