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Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

Started by Overunityguide, August 30, 2011, 04:59:41 PM

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MileHigh

Magluvin:

The resistances will be the same.  We are talking basic fundamentals of electronics here.  Will two five-meter lengths of wire in series measure the same DC resistance as a 10-meter length of wire?  The answer is yes.

Farmhand:

The self-resonant frequency of a coil is independent of the magnitude of the oscillating voltage.  Just look at the formula for the resonant frequency of an LC tank circuit.  Not a mention of voltage to be found.

Synchro1:

The Oldscientist measured 4X not 40X, he made a verbal slip-up and he makes other mistakes.  Just look at the multimeter displays in his clip.   Likewise the SB coil does not produce twice the magnetic field as a regular coil with the same number of turns.  These are basic fundamentals of coil design.

MileHigh

synchro1

Quote from: MileHigh on April 18, 2013, 08:23:30 AM
Magluvin:

The resistances will be the same.  We are talking basic fundamentals of electronics here.  Will two five-meter lengths of wire in series measure the same DC resistance as a 10-meter length of wire?  The answer is yes.

Farmhand:

The self-resonant frequency of a coil is independent of the magnitude of the oscillating voltage.  Just look at the formula for the resonant frequency of an LC tank circuit.  Not a mention of voltage to be found.

Synchro1:

The Oldscientist measured 4X not 40X, he made a verbal slip-up and he makes other mistakes.  Just look at the multimeter displays in his clip.   Likewise the SB coil does not produce twice the magnetic field as a regular coil with the same number of turns.  These are basic fundamentals of coil design.

MileHigh

I have one word for you and your classic design formulas. You're stuck with outdated Newtonian concepts in an area of Quantum Mechanics. The two wires can't create the extra field according to your steam era laws of Physics. The one word is : LORENTZ.

Does anyone think there's any value to this discovery of mine? Two serial bifilars wound together act as a pulsed D.C to A.C. voltage doubling inverter transformer.

MileHigh

Synchro1:

When you learn about electronics you start with the basic building blocks.  You learn one block, and then learn another block and put that on top of the first block, and so on.  As you learn more advanced stuff you go higher and higher and you keep on referencing the blocks you learned before.  So I am 100% certain that what I am saying is true about the magnetic fields being the same for the two coil configurations.

I will throw a fun curve ball at you.  There is actually no such thing as a "north" and "south" magnetic field.  Have you ever looked at the magnetic field of a long straight wire with current going through it?  The magnetic field lines travel in circles around the axis of the wire.  So where is the "north" and where is the "south" in this case? There is none.  We just use the terms "north" and "south" as constructs to make it easier to talk about magnetic fields.

So it turns out that Tesla experimented with LC resonators where the coil itself is the resonator.  The main reason he did this was because capacitor technology in the 19th century was unavailable to do the things he wanted to do, so he found another way to do it.  But I think that he created a solution in search of a problem.

The magnetic field generated by a coil is proportional to the current times the square of the number of turns.  They discovered that Mother Nature likes to keep things simple.  That happens over and over.  Another example is that a coil is not so unique.  It turns out that a flywheel acts exactly like a coil.  Who would have thought that an electrical coil is basically the same thing as a mass spinning about it's axis, like a big flat disk spinning on a shaft with a high-quality bearing to keep the friction to a minimum.  Again, another example of Mother Nature keeping things simple.

MileHigh

synchro1

You continue to ignore the results of "Tesla-Coil_Builders" paper clip attraction experiment. I can't permit you to slick by that kind of concrete proof coupled with pejorative jargon. You're stealing the wonder this magnification of field stregth permits us, by canvasing it in a smoke screen of "Hocus Pous" pseudo science.

Please get the two 16 penny nails, the few yards of magnet wire and run the experiment for your self. You're acting like a superstious aborigene, recoiling from a pilot's reflective mirror. .

MileHigh

Synchro1:

You have a situation where you have two differing opinions about Tesla_Coil_Builder's experiment.  So don't take my word for it or TCB's word for it.  My advice to you would be to do more research and see what you think for yourself.  In other words, make a more informed decision.  Learning is one of the spices of life!

I mentioned to you that TCB is clearly a beginner because he did not use the correct terminology for his experiment.  Therefore his experiment is suspect.  I have mentioned many other valid points that you have ignored.  I am certainly not talking hocus-pocus pseudo science.

Thee is a huge body of knowledge related to electronics.  Try to do some research in manageable chunks and you will have more fun and insight with your experiments.

MileHigh