FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[happyfunball]

And replications done in universities, also BS vehiculated through the net or real ?

There aren't any University replications of the E-Cat  The University testing they did is worthless.

[lumen]

I suppose if people can't cope cold fusion coming out in a year, may be they will fall for the old HOT Fusion scam because it does work out on paper you know. Even though they have bilked many countries out of hundreds of millions of dollars and still offer the same lame excuse after over 50 years trying, that it will only be another 10 years. Even though even if it did work out it still produces dangerous radioactive waste and has no way to contain the high speed neutrons which simply destroy any shield over time.

For cold fusion to be a scam, it needs at least a few hundred million thrown at it by at least one country, and needs to be given at least 10 years before they could say "were close, just ten years away", then possibly another hundred million and another ten years so we can hear " were close, just another ten years" then....... and then.......... and then.......and....

Just remember that those that want absolute proof of cold fusion, only want to know so THEY can make MONEY on someone elses idea like a true parasite does.

[jan.kolar]

There aren't any University replications of the E-Cat  The University testing they did is worthless.

Yes, you are quite right that there are no university replication of E-Cat. But there are hundreds and hundreds of successfull cold fusion experiments on universities and research facilities around the world. The amount of evidence is sufficient to conclusively say, we have a new physical phenomenon in action. This is most important message. See for example this paper:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ApplebyAJanomalousc.pdf
In this experiment made by Texas A&M university researchers led by John Appleby anomalous heat production in typical Fleischman-Pons experiment was proved by world top most apparatus. Micro-calorimeter used in experiment is so accurate that it can register even heat released by steel oxidation!

[Gwandau]

I suppose if people can't cope cold fusion coming out in a year, may be they will fall for the old HOT Fusion scam because it does work out on paper you know. Even though they have bilked many countries out of hundreds of millions of dollars and still offer the same lame excuse after over 50 years trying, that it will only be another 10 years. Even though even if it did work out it still produces dangerous radioactive waste and has no way to contain the high speed neutrons which simply destroy any shield over time.

For cold fusion to be a scam, it needs at least a few hundred million thrown at it by at least one country, and needs to be given at least 10 years before they could say "were close, just ten years away", then possibly another hundred million and another ten years so we can hear " were close, just another ten years" then....... and then.......... and then.......and....

Just remember that those that want absolute proof of cold fusion, only want to know so THEY can make MONEY on someone elses idea like a true parasite does.

Great post, Lumen,

your way of sweeping nagging old crones like "happyfunball" off the feet is a perfect way to show the rest of all pessimistic imbecils how
transparent their unfounded negativism looks to any one interested in the documented progress of LENR and cold fusion related experiments
reported from scientific institutions all over the world.

We need guys with your retoric sharpness in this thread in our continous efforts to keep those trolls out of the scene in order to support a fair picture of the LENR movement.
I don't know if they are paid to do so, or if they only are plain stupid low life, but they seem to surface here again and again
with the only purpose to pollute the wellfounded optimism growing here.

Gwandau

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Chess, many thanks for the explanation re motors.  And guys, here's a little reminder to you all.  While Rossi is the champion of this movement the heroes are actually Fleischmann and Pons.  And nota bene. Poor Professor Fleischmann was a HIGHLY respected academic prior to that 'debunk'.  MIT went to some considerable trouble to disprove those results and also - as far as I can see - the debunk relied on the lack of the required emissions to qualify as a nuclear reaction - of any sort.  Which should have been precisely the point that their experiment was ever more closely researched.  What stuck like tar to the Tar Baby - was the applied term 'pathological science' subsequently coined by Dr Vest and grossly misapplied.  This did considerably more harm than than just the attendant disgrace to these highly proficient chemists - as the term has become widely applied to all research into alternative energy supplies. It is an attitude that has dogged any such field of endeavor - and has mitigated against it being properly investigated.  Which is where Rossi has managed a most excellent argument against these 'debunk' exercises.  He simply  relies on the experimental evidence for proof - and in his case mega watts worth of this.  What a star.

We must remember that - to date - there is yet no explanation for cold fusion within standard theoretical paradigms.  It calls for the acknowledgement of a new source of energy that has not, heretofore, been considered.  Else resolution needs yet another kind of explanation.  But also remember a point that was raised - in a related thread - suggested that if elements can be transmuted at such low energies - then the standard model needs must be revised.  Because it also points to the fact that atoms can actually transmute into varying levels of complexity with little more than the energy required to run our household appliances.

This all makes the advent of this technology doubly embarrassing to our mainstream science.  Not only proof of energy in excess of classical prediction - but the promise of an easy means to manufacture a variety of metals with nothing more complex than an applied electrical current.  A double whammy.  The utility suppliers rendered obsolete and our metals markets undermined - in one fell swoop.  Which makes it highly unlikely that our Rossi or anyone developing cold fusion - will become the champions of the old order of things.  Thank you God.  I think we're all going to need to revise the value of all that gold at Fort Knox and we'll certainly learn how utterly obsolete are our energy monopolists.  God alone knows what that will do to our bankers who rely on the value of gold and the financial strength of our more pollutant energy supplies.  Very likely both will be degraded.   

It's good news guys.  On every possible front.
Rosemary