Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[PhiChaser]

Finally got some aspirin and vitamin c from the dollar store...
My cell 'charging' experiment has resulted in a cell that seems to hold a higher voltage than it did before I charged it. Not saying much really, I got each cell over 2.5v but now both are under 1.5v so I'm not sure where they will end up. They aren't totally dry in the center probably. Seems like the same recipe with the epsom salt totally mixed/dissolved gave higher initial readings than the mix I'm currently testing which wasn't toally mixed. One reason is probably that a quarter cup of epsom salt in relation to a quarter cup of Durham's is NOT the same mix as a half teaspoon of each. When dissolved the epsom will be way smaller in volume. That seems pretty obvious so... I need to get a small scale to measure the ingredients accurately, then mix every one the same way (whenever possible anyways). Layered stuff may work well in certain applications triffid, I'm looking for a hard electrolyte that makes a good homemade battery using pultruded carbon and aluminum as electrolytes.
Just curious IB and triffid and everyone else who posts on this thread: Should I start a new thread?
What I'm after I believe is a 'crystal' cell in that the electrolyte is crystalline in structure. I want to use the Durham's because it seems relatively inert (mostly gypsum) and is easily available in large quantities. Quickcrete isn't a really 'exact' mix IB, even though each one can set a post in the ground. Three tablespoons of quickcrete are not all the same stuff whereas three tablespoons of the Durham's IS (to a far greater degree anyways).
Pressure gives higher voltage but I believe that if I can suspend a good crystalline mix in a hard dense material (which is what the epsom and Durham's are giving me for results at the moment) that I can 'charge' up the electrolyte a bit more with conventional batteries and hold that charge in the more dense 'lattice'. Make sense?
Water is the key for sure!! Take some crystals that hold water really well (epsom, alum) and throw in some other stuff (), add a binder (Durham's) to make it hard, add H2O to solulize everything, then harden the new 'salt' (read:stable H2O crystal) around the electrodes... Simple right? Heh heh...
Take it the next step (this is where itty bitty cell starts to make sense):
Small cells, but a LOT of them. Banks of series cells layered between parallel capacitors into capacitor banks (eventually into AC inverters...). Maybe I should start a new thread... Whatever you guys think is cool with me. There is a lot of stuff going on in this thread so it really is IB's call.
The forum has been acting kind of funny the last couple days so morining posts aren't working for me...
I will try to put some new cells together this weekend and maybe take more pics. Record keeping to start pretty soon (my first cell I made on the 9th). Ah well, paperwork was never my strong suit...
Looking forward to trying some vitamin c and aspirin cells triffid!
Seems like I never have enough time but we all do what we can right? I need to catch up on the thread...
Keep up the great work guys and happy experimenting!
PC
EDIT: The 'power going to your head' statement cracked me up triffid... And Durham's is NOT the same as quikcrete or concrete, believe me!!! Adding voltage while the cells are 'setting up' is probably something that needs to be worked on. I think that will force the crystals to line up the way we want them to, making better connections between anode/cathode as well as between the crystals themselves...

[triffid]

PC, I agree with you that its IB2'S call and Theres an ad in the st.Louis area maybe the whole usa?For charter internet that their increased downloads could give you the notion that with the increased power  you  could conquer armies.Their increased power could go to your head?


I enjoyed passing it on here.So its not original.


My new cells in the 18 count panel are all producing 1.45 volts or better as high as 1.56volts.These cells I did not crush the vitamin C tablets.
If you do not have starch in your asprin(yes crush these),you will not get the same results I did.


Vitamin C with silica.I used 1000 mg  but its apparent you did not need so much.My cell I placed two pills in had the same reading as every other cell(1.45 at least).


For now I plan to build more 18 count panels.So I will collect more 18 count egg cartons(plastic with no holes)If I have a hole I will tape it up.
triffid

[PhiChaser]

@ triffid:
Any chance of you uploading some pics of your projects? A picture is worth a thousand words you know!
PC

[triffid]

The last couple of days i have been showing off the 6 cell panels to friends at McDonalds and to my brother.When they see the led light up they are impressed.Soon I will be charging up some batteries and see how that goes.triffid

[triffid]

PC,I think you are doing a great job.Keep up the good work.I think everyone here has done a great job.triffid