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Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

Started by ibpointless2, November 02, 2011, 02:54:15 PM

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triffid

IB2,When you say 300 uamps are you saying 300 microamps?A milliamp =1000 microamps if I remember correctly.I did check my voltmeter and it does not read microamps.  triffid




Maybe your cell is reading 300ma?

Tenbatsu

triffid, how you are you achieving 4 watts?

The voltage and the amperage that you listed above only provides for roughly .0044 watts .

Or did you mean to type .3amps instead of .3ma ?


jbignes5

 Now listen carefully IB. What you need to do is oxidize the electrodes and let them dry thoroughly. Now this is the easy part. Put them in layered fashion Copper/Magnesium/Copper/Magnesium and hook them in parallel. Put cheese cloth in between each layer that has been pre-soaked in alum crystals and boil it all in oil to remove all the air, water and oxygen. There you have it. Only the crystals will touch and everything else will be sealed from air and water! As it cools the crystals will solidify and create the connection in between the plates with only the water that is in the crystals<-pure crystalline water.

I havent done this yet because I need to get some magnesium and copper plates. I am gonna try it because I think this is the key... Oxygen is the problem here not water. Thats why Tesla used boiled oil coils to exclude oxygen from the coils and greatly extended the operating tolerances. This process could be used here as well...

ibpointless2

Quote from: triffid on February 21, 2012, 06:18:58 PM
IB2,When you say 300 uamps are you saying 300 microamps?A milliamp =1000 microamps if I remember correctly.I did check my voltmeter and it does not read microamps.  triffid




Maybe your cell is reading 300ma?




It was 300uA (micro-amps) or .300mA is also the same. Yes 1000uA  1mA. Not many meters can read micro-amps and I know what you mean about batteries in multi-meters. The meter i use most is  the INNOVA 3300, I got it at Walmart for $12 and i find it better than my $60 plus meters. I've had it for at least 4 months and it still has the same battery in it, this is a great meter. I would say its the best cheap meter i ever owned.


yes my goal now is to build cells that don't corrode the metals, its a very hard task to do. I just did a new video where I show the amps of a cell that has petroluem jelly on the magnesium and its in Epsom salt and salt substitute water and i get around 1000uA or 1mA.   [size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B05_WuKJWxE[/size]




ibpointless2

Quote from: jbignes5 on February 21, 2012, 08:16:49 PM
Now listen carefully IB. What you need to do is oxidize the electrodes and let them dry thoroughly. Now this is the easy part. Put them in layered fashion Copper/Magnesium/Copper/Magnesium and hook them in parallel. Put cheese cloth in between each layer that has been pre-soaked in alum crystals and boil it all in oil to remove all the air, water and oxygen. There you have it. Only the crystals will touch and everything else will be sealed from air and water! As it cools the crystals will solidify and create the connection in between the plates with only the water that is in the crystals<-pure crystalline water.

I havent done this yet because I need to get some magnesium and copper plates. I am gonna try it because I think this is the key... Oxygen is the problem here not water. Thats why Tesla used boiled oil coils to exclude oxygen from the coils and greatly extended the operating tolerances. This process could be used here as well...


Very interesting jbigness5. I'm with you, oxygen is playing a big role in the corrosion. I think oxygen plus water is making things go bad for metals (water contains oxygen). But a problem with using oxidize electrodes, they're oxidized so the oxygen are ready reacted to them. When Magnesium corrodes it becomes magnesium-oxide which is not very conductive at all. So we loose power when the metals are oxidizing.  So yes you're correct that oxygen is a problem, the combing of oxygen make the metal turn into its powder forum and that's why the metal breaks apart.


I have new video out where im using petroleum jelly to protect the magnesium and i'm getting close to 1mA. So far the magnesium has not corrode on me yet and it should have shown some corrosion by now because the control cells are corroding. I'm guessing the oxygen is not allowed to touch the metal so it won't corrode or turn into magnesium oxide. Petroleum jelly repels water, which means the oxygen in water gets forced away and the hydrogen is only touching the petroleum jelly and thus the metals don't corrode. This is all theory now and more testing is being done.