Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[PhiChaser]

I used up the last of my pultruded carbon rod, now I will be scavenging from old cells next time I make more cells. Ah well, all in the name of science right?
So I took a cell I made today and hooked it up to two 6 volt batteries in series giving me 12 volts (the voltage started at 10.85v and went over 11 volts when I had it hooked up to the VOM 5-6 hours ago. Well, I took this cell off those batteries a few minutes ago so I am gonna measure it now!
(Drumroll please...)
2.28 volts!!!! WOOT!!!!
2.27... pretty damn stable. WOW!!!
Amperage test... Gonna go get my meter that goes to 500 uA so I can see... Most of my meters go to 100uA.
Holy crap.... I just pegged this thing!!!!
BRB... I'm almost shaking!! I need to find a mA meter...
1.55mA and dropping.
Reading 0.5mA at about a minute, slowly falling still... Gonna change to the 500uA meter.
Just pegged it again... Maybe I need to let it drop further before switching. It took me a minute to find the meter again LOL!!!
Jeeze, it was back up over 1.5mA...
Okay, getting down to 0.3mA, gonna try to switch to the 500uA meter again...
Alright, dropping to 250uA... Still WAY higher than ANY cells I have made... WOOT!!!!
I'm gonna hook up the VOM to the cell again and check the voltage again, then I will hook BOTH up at once and see what I get...
1.48v and rising... 1.6 volts and still rising
AAAHHHH!!! 1.75v and still rising...
1.8 volts and still rising...
This is like, maybe two minutes?
1.84... 1.85
K, gonna hook up the ammeter (0-500uA) at the same time. This usually gives my voltage a nose dive to less than 0.05 volts...
1.89 volts, here goes: Pegged it!!! Voltage dropped to .3 volts and dropping quick until I disconnected. Okay, back to the 2mA meter, VOM is at 1.89 volts again. Yep, lost my volts...
Let me take a pic of this and post it and come back. I'm totally stoked!!

PC

[triffid]

- Cesium Alum could possibly replace Potash Alum currently used.  Similarly, Anhydrous, insoluble and a double sulfate.-overall that would create a larger "delta" between electronegativities than Potassium and magnesium now.




No ones used potassium metal that I know of.Its dangerous to use just like sodium metal is dangerous.Both metals were kept in oil in the labs I was in.Exposure to air or water was a big no no.
For a bigger "delta" I suspect you look at the edison battery electrodes.They ended up being very complex.They were not simple plates of this or that.For a bigger delta than what pencil lead and magnesium can give you I don't know what else to use.I have used copper and magnesium in my cells for now.Pencil lead is too brittle for me.triffid

[PhiChaser]

Of course my phone battery would crap out as soon as it got into camera mode...

EDIT: Now I get to wait for the crappy picture to get to my email so I can save it and upload it... I got a pic of where the VOM is currently sitting: 1.94 volts!!! YES!!!! STILL at 1.94...

So, apparently charging the batteries is something doable...
Oh, I 'cooked' a cell and 'froze' a similar cell and I ended up killing the cooked cell and the freezer made the amperage go WAY down until that cell warmed back up...
Gonna go check my email, will add the photo to this post when it arrives!
Okay.
PC

[PhiChaser]

Oh yeah. STILL at 1.94 volts!!!
I'm gonna leave that hooked up and PLEASE: Somebody try this out to verify? I'm sure magnesium and copper will give you better numbers but here is what I used: Pultruded carbon tubing and twisted aluminum wire for electrodes buried in the electrolyte below:
Ingredients (makes 5-6 cells so adjust accordingly)
3 Tbsp Epsom Salt (raw, like big salt crystals)
3 Tbsp Alum (crushed to epsom granularity, not powdered)
6 Tbsp Durham's
1/2 tsp powdered vitamin c
2 Tbsp H20
Mix ingredients, pour into ice cube molds, stab electrodes in, remove in about an hour.
I hooked up just one cell in series with a couple 6 volt lantern batteries for a few hours.

Hold on, gonna go check that cell again... dropped to 1.93. This cell is bar none the BEST I have made. Charging these with batteries needs to be studied.

Wow, where did my evening go?!?
I will leave that cell hooked up overnight and report on it tomorrow.

Happy experimenting,
PC

EDIT: Since that cell is one of five, I will hook up another one to the two 6v lantern batteries overnight. Might as well right? Awesome day!!

[jbignes5]

 Hmmm 1.94 on carbon and aluminum? The best I ever got was 1.6 or so volts. So where can the extra voltage be coming from? So you activated the cells by a battery overnight? ok so I need to go get some gypsum named "durhams"?
So no salt substitute?

This kinda reminds me of training the cell by polarizing gently the crystals to form pathways. Hmmmm

If you can do something for me to test that would be much appreciated. Once the cell goes 1.9 volts could you seal it in a plastic container somehow and then compare the two as they are used. I got my opinion as to what is going on but I need some more time to setup the experiment. I got to get some more stuff like Durhams product.

Again to be clear what is the products name of the Durhams and rough ingredients list please.