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another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.

Started by Rosemary Ainslie, November 08, 2011, 09:15:50 PM

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Rosemary Ainslie

Now Poynty - guys,

I may be throwing too much at you all - too early in this discussion.  But there's another thing. IF the energy is coming from the element resistor and circuit components - then consider this.  The element becomes the predominant source of potential difference.  It's inductive/conductive properties become entirely responsible for a kind of supplementary supply source.  Then.  Under those circumstances we can theoretically 'impose' the concept of it having it's own anode and cathode that is in counter polarity to the battery's.  Then do the measurements that Poynty has RIGHTLY proposed is applicable to a supply source.  Now phase shifts would indeed come into the argument.  And there would be the continual discharge and recharge of that element - in the usual way.  Then reconfigure the sums with this in mind.  Then indeed - one would have a supply source that is behaving predictably.  But the confusion would be that the supply source is also dissipating exploitable heat signatures - and it is absolutely NOT at the cost of any material at that supply.  Those atoms will remain there into perpetuity - provided only that the heat is never too extreme.  So.  What price our 2nd Law of Thermodynmics - with this evidence to hand?

I do hope that's not too much to digest.  But that's where we propose all this surplus energy is coming from.
Kindest regards,
Rosemary

AbbaRue

After watching that video again, it appears he has placed the Oscilloscope across the battery holder.
So the signal he is getting is probably due to the leads picking up an RF output from the wiring.
I have seen similar readings many times by just hooking up one lead from the scope to a circuit. 
I tested one of Dr. Stiffler's circuits where he used 3 coils in resonance and got an LED to light just from the ground.
I got the LED to light every time I turned on my signal generator, even though I never hooked it up to the circuit.
I just left the leads laying on the bench about a foot from the circuit.
I noticed in Dr. Stiffler's videos that he had a lot of test equipment running in the back ground when he did his tests too.
The circuit wiring acts as an antenna picking up the output from the signal generator. 
The large output is understandable because he is putting in about 20V P-P, that's a very strong signal.


Magluvin

Quote from: AbbaRue on March 15, 2012, 07:34:47 PM
After watching that video again, it appears he has placed the Oscilloscope across the battery holder.
So the signal he is getting is probably due to the leads picking up an RF output from the wiring.
I have seen similar readings many times by just hooking up one lead from the scope to a circuit. 
I tested one of Dr. Stiffler's circuits where he used 3 coils in resonance and got an LED to light just from the ground.
I got the LED to light every time I turned on my signal generator, even though I never hooked it up to the circuit.
I just left the leads laying on the bench about a foot from the circuit.
I noticed in Dr. Stiffler's videos that he had a lot of test equipment running in the back ground when he did his tests too.
The circuit wiring acts as an antenna picking up the output from the signal generator. 
The large output is understandable because he is putting in about 20V P-P, that's a very strong signal.

Hey Abba

Well, if the scope is across the battery leads, when the battery is removed, the scope should get  the signal through the mosfet being they seem to be in oscillation(on/off) even without the battery in the circuit.

Abba, if we have 72v in batteries, what level of signal is required to get the circuit working as shown by Rose? 500v?   ;)   Same ratio a 20v pp and 3v battery.
that voltage difference is why the gens output is being loaded. 

A car audio amplifier has a switching power supply. Input to the amp is 12v. The step up transformers primary is driven by mosfets, usually more than 1 for each phase in parallel. What voltage would the pwm driver supply to the gates of those fets? And they turn on and off as they are intended to.  ;)

Really, I like TK. I Just dont agree with what was presented in the vid as some proof of point. I got pissed, I admit. I expect better. He knows better than to use that transformer and leds the way he did and claim it to be an equivalent to the schematic shown in the beginning of the video.
And if he knew the issues with doing so as I had presented, then thats underhanded.
Is he smart enough to know it?  ;)

So what can we say about any portion of the video presentation, without having some level of distrust?

Abba, after all of these years of pestering Rose, have you seen an equivalent setup built and tested by any one of these people here? Why is that?

We get sims, and funky bad imitations. yet they will waste years and years, but never build it. WHY?  8)

Mags

Magluvin

Years and years . How many now?  Would I be so passionate about taking such an undertaking, without building the circuit and testing properly?
Not without being paid.  8)

Mags

Rosemary Ainslie

Which guys, means this.

To keep this readable - BV = battery voltage - BC = battery current. 
Conversely RV = resistor voltage - RC = resistor current.

1 BC is positive -  clockwise              -+  -+  -+  -+  -+  -+  -+  -+  -+  -+ like this >>>>> GREATER ZERO
. potential difference transferred to RV
. discharge of potential difference from BV

2 RC is negative - counterclockwise   +-  +-  +-  +-  +-  +-  +-  +-  +-  +- like this <<<<< LESS THAN ZERO
. potential difference transferred to BV
. discharge of potential difference from RV

3 RC is positive - clockwise               +-  +-  +-  +-  +-  +-  +-  +-  +-  +- like this >>>>>>GREATER THAN ZERO
. potential difference transferred from RV
. recharge of potential difference at BV

This would resolve the problem.  Effectively we're proposing that the discharge of energy in that 3rd phase is coincident with the positive half of each oscillation.  And that it 'leads' with a negative charge.  Which would explain the path for that oscillation as the charge bias of the current would then be in synch with the polarity bias' of the MOSFETS.

In any event guys.  That's what we're proposing.
Again,
Kindest regards,
Rosemary                     

I hope that's clear.  Effectively all that has happened is that the element resistor becomes the supply source and it's voltages are the mirror opposite of the battery supply.  LOL  It's difficult to explain.  But it's just SO SIMPLE.