Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research

gammarayburst · December 17, 2011, 11:07:52 AM

Quote from: Low-Q on December 16, 2011, 07:12:21 PM
I will try here from my computer at home

The chains are separted apart by the magnet. The chains will try to push the wheel apart. The wheels are fixed to the magnet and will be pushed to the right - the same direction that the magnet wants to go.
Thats the idea anyway.

EDIT: This is a similar design to what I posted in another thread a year ago or so (I cannot remember the name of that thread - or the design)

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We are finding designs I just can't believe. Will talk soon.
Butch

Low-Q · December 19, 2011, 06:57:38 AM

Quote from: gammarayburst on December 17, 2011, 11:07:52 AM
Vidar,
We are finding designs I just can't believe. Will talk soon.
Butch

I guess you've been at the scrapyard already searching for old bicycle chains!

Br.

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mscoffman · December 19, 2011, 01:41:27 PM

Quote from: Low-Q on December 19, 2011, 06:57:38 AM
I guess you've been at the scrapyard already searching for old bicycle chains!

Br.

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Of course there is always beltdrive.

gammarayburst · December 20, 2011, 12:35:19 AM

Quote from: mscoffman on December 19, 2011, 01:41:27 PM
Of course there is always beltdrive.

It appears that it would be a static situation? Have you tried to build a test fixture?
Butch

Low-Q · December 20, 2011, 06:29:54 AM

Quote from: gammarayburst on December 20, 2011, 12:35:19 AM
It appears that it would be a static situation? Have you tried to build a test fixture?
Butch

If you refer to my drawing?

It could be a static situation due to following explanations:

The chain will arrange the magnetic flux mostly in the direction of the chain before it returns to the magnet - because iron conduct magnetism better than air. This will cause the magnetic flux inside the chais to not "see" eachother. Hence the chains will not separate at all, or just bearly.

If there is a magnetic separation between the chains, it will be the force acting on the two wheels which will be the drive mechanism and not the magnetic forces directly. However, the magnet is attracted to the chains in the part where they are in process of separation and pull the chains away from the wheels.

Maybe the wheels should be placed closer to the magnet, or even right under it. Maybe the magnet should cover a greater area.

To help myself visualizing the situation one should think of a reason why the chain would move if the magnet and wheels are stationary - i see that it's harder to imagine why that should work even if it's the very same design. It's not that "obvious" anymore.

I got to disassamble my kids bicycles this evening

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