MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH BY PHILLIPS - HIGHLY EFFICIENT HYDROGEN PRODUCTION!

[ydeardorff]

I forgot who said it.
The only measure between insanity and genius is success.

[ydeardorff]

This idea got me thinking.
I have carbon precipitation in my electrolyte. So I thought perhaps using an aluminum plate as the anode which normally acts like a diode and stops all production might react. So if this guy is getting a chemical reaction from this, the aluminum as the anode might react with the carbon in the electrolyte to produce gas.

So I taped up a quick 1/8" gap with a titanium scrap piece, and a piece of 7075-T6 aluminum plate. ran 12VDC 2 amps though it, and it started to produce gas, very minor bubbles, definitely nothing to get excited about. But what it did do surprised me. It only created bubbles on the cathode. There wasn't a single bubble on the aluminum anode what so ever. The bubbles were leaving the electrode, but the reaction wasn't great. My electrolyte was also cold, so once warmed up it might be a much better reaction, and it looks to only create hydrogen, without releasing oxygen.

Thoughts? 

[ResinRat2]

Hello Ydeardorff,

Is your aluminum electrode changing color or texture? It is most likely oxidizing because the oxygen has to go somewhere. You should see the electrode physically change in some way.

Thanks for posting your results.

RR2

[ydeardorff]

After 30 minutes, of run time I couldn't see any change in the electrode at all. No pitting, no discoloration. It was perfectly clean and shiny.

Only bubbles collected on the cathode, and a few released, but most just built up on the electrode itself, and just stayed there.

So like I said, it was interesting, but not really very productive. But there are too many variables left unknown as to why, and what would make it work better, or worse.

I was under the impression you couldn't liberate H with out an O being liberated too. I am using potash for my electrolyte. Perhaps the O stays suspended in the solution?

Another train of thought might be, with the carbon in solution that I was in fact making methane, rather than hydrogen. since if 4 hydrogen atoms attach to one carbon it makes methane. Or perhaps the K2CO3 was being reduced somehow splitting the CO3 into CO2, and CO?

[canufi]

Basically it comes down to using their "specially" activated carbon as the catalyst, some fine aluminum powder as fuel and water preheated to around 80°C.

Oh that's just great, yet another expensive additive that you must add... Stan Meyer already came up with the reasons why NOT to use additives.. it defies economic laws. Using additives is a no-go... just say no to additives.. PLEASE!

Dielectric breakdown and avalanche effect is the way to go! Molecular spin is energy, as movement of a molecule is WORK performed!

Info is available about Stan Meyer physics and capacitance theory here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/canufi