LENR Roundup

[profitis]

Sparks:'I have no idea as to how a light water reactor could possibly work as there isn't any neutron fuel to speak of.'

Its what's in the lightwater that may fuse eg lithium salts.I agree that thers no nuclear fusion going on with lightwater(h2) itself but ther definitely seems to be some types fission going on,not with the h2 but of matter that it happens to contact with eg catalyst matter.the things that makeup the hysteresis loop.

[wattsup]

One word I have not heard in these effects but given the physical builds of these LENR devices, one word comes to mind....... cavitation. Where heat is generated inside a confined space, you may expect cavitation. We already have great videos on youtube showing cavitation wheels quickly producing hot water.

Given the ceramic crucibles are porous and could also be leaching some elements, a ceramic sample should be crushed to a powder form and analyzed via atomic adsorption to identify all the elements present. I have not seen that.

What I am afraid of is this effect will be sidetracked with the discussions of transmutations (TM) when the TM effect should not even be important at this stage since the energy side is much more crucial to our present motivations. Once you have a device that can go OU, you still have the rest of eternity to figure out any transmutation, real or not right now does not matter.

There may be a relationship between the elements added inside the chamber (or not) and the porous action of the ceramic where the elements could be increasing the available friction threshold and the porous ceramic provides a tremendous increase in exposed surface area that could equal several football fields that would be dissipating the heat and thus providing an OU level event.

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[ramset]

Wattsup
These ceramics apparently form/grow a very tight crystaline seal during cure,
this is what caused the recent Martin Fleischmann memorial project to end with a bang.
The Ceramic seal did yield ..,however you raise a good point ,there are other things which can happen here when we bring such stress to the recipe ,adding RF or Magnetic fields Or spin etc etc.. could also be an interesting path ?

[sparks]

Well, a couple of problems that you have there is that you are relying on the Bohr model for the idea of electrons as satellites of the nucleus, and electrons that have eating disorders.

     Not really.  I'm relying on the relativistic gain in mass of particles.  The charge staying the same but the bound electron mass increasing.  I'm also relying on a proton as being the ground state as far as nuclear decay goes.  Last I heard the proton isn't expected to decay for 10 to the 23 years whereas neutrons go to hell in 15 minutes.  There is an optimum ratio of protons to neutrons in a stable isotope.   So if you have a stable isotope and screw with this proton neutron ratio why would you not expect a little nuclear reaction?   A stable isotope has gotten pretty use to having a proton a proton and the strong force has packed it like it wants it.   Now with loss of electrostatic repulsion of the proton you have to expect alot of protons inside the "chiral bag" to move about.   Possibly pushing a neutron or two out the bag to decay.  I believe that is why in these lenr experiments you need a high current density.  A high current density increases the chances of bumping electrons into the core.  I'm not saying that all neutrons are protons that capture an electron but there must be a probability of an electron with the right mass charge ratio to occupy the same space at the same time to cancel the proton charge and render that portion of the nucleus electrically and massively neutron like.
 

[sparks]

One word I have not heard in these effects but given the physical builds of these LENR devices, one word comes to mind....... cavitation. Where heat is generated inside a confined space, you may expect cavitation. We already have great videos on youtube showing cavitation wheels quickly producing hot water.

Given the ceramic crucibles are porous and could also be leaching some elements, a ceramic sample should be crushed to a powder form and analyzed via atomic adsorption to identify all the elements present. I have not seen that.

What I am afraid of is this effect will be sidetracked with the discussions of transmutations (TM) when the TM effect should not even be important at this stage since the energy side is much more crucial to our present motivations. Once you have a device that can go OU, you still have the rest of eternity to figure out any transmutation, real or not right now does not matter.

There may be a relationship between the elements added inside the chamber (or not) and the porous action of the ceramic where the elements could be increasing the available friction threshold and the porous ceramic provides a tremendous increase in exposed surface area that could equal several football fields that would be dissipating the heat and thus providing an OU level event.

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  Hey wattsup


     Some of the most energetic processes in the Universe are when stars collapse.   If you got the right stuff on the interface of the bubble you can expect a little electron accelerations and collision.  I think one outfit was loading the palladium lattice using ultrasonics.   Lot of these guys have tritium showing up in their experiments and helium4 so they probably have fusion events going on but so don't the tokamaks.