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Testing the TK Tar Baby

Started by TinselKoala, March 25, 2012, 05:11:53 PM

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Magluvin

Quote from: ionizer on September 01, 2012, 08:34:05 PM
Offcource this does not change the fact that it still is wasting energy by discharging the cap onto a resistor.
That just isn't right.

Micro's usually run somwhere between 3,3 and 5 volts but as you know the operating current depends on the frequency and i don't see any in your example.

Anyway the 12f629 has a operating current of 100uA @ 1 MHz, 2.0V
Thats micro amps and not milli amps !

I do have something against 555 as oscillator or pwm they drift and they are not suitable for such application.
They also effect each other when they are placed on the same supply rail due to the RF noise they generate.
They are good for delay timers and led flashlights but not as high speed oscillator or pwm.
I'm not saying it's a bad chip but choose the right component for the right application.

A digital uc with a crystal clock is about the best you can get and it is programmable to do whatever you want it to do and the price good too.

The cmos 555 consumes 50ua at 1.5v. using 2 of them = 100ua, typically.

Your IC   100uA @2v= 200uW     
2 cmos 555 IC's  100ua @1.5v= 150uW

Your IC uses 50 uW more than my 2 555's 

Man, you are losing soo much energy using that thing, that your IC just might be the cause of global warming. ;] lol 

Stop sweating the small things. ;]

MaGs


ionizer

Quote from: Magluvin on September 01, 2012, 09:29:36 PM
The cmos 555 consumes 50ua at 1.5v. using 2 of them = 100ua, typically.

Your IC   100uA @2v= 200uW     
2 cmos 555 IC's  100ua @1.5v= 150uW

MaGs

At what frequency?

I hope your not comparing your 1 shot 555 'all switches open' to my uc running at 1 MHz cos that ain't fair bro.

Magluvin

Yep that 12f629 is a winner. Im checking them out as I may have a use for this.
I didnt realize it was a PIC.  So whats that mean @1mhz, as it says it runs at 20mhz? Is the running freq variable?
The data sheet is long and also other info is necessary, downloading.



MaGs



TinselKoala

Sorry to interrupt...... but let's see if we can decode this latest from the Red Queen Ainslie.

She now appears, in her convoluted way, to be standing by her retraction of her acknowledgement that the Quantum circuit is in error. In other words, if I am following this, she is NOW CLAIMING yet again that the Quantum circuit is CORRECT and that it does not make the inverted duty cycle from the claimed values.

Well, this is easy to check isn't it. In fact many people HAVE checked it. Even, as I recall... GMEAST has checked it.

I am just shaking my head over this. This is truly madness. Anyone can build that circuit, many people have built it, I've built it myself several times, it can be simulated..... and it always does just what I say it does and just the opposite of what Ainslie thinks it does.

It is impossible to argue with a MADWOMAN. She cannot even get her own story straight, and she will cheerfully tell you the sky is green if that is what her zipon delusion requires, and if you think it's blue, shame on you, check the Wiki, it's right there, the sky is green.

poynt99

The standard of "professionalism" we all ought to aim for  ??? :
http://www.energy-shiftingparadigms.com/index.php/topic,2305.msg3290.html#msg3290
QuoteA sad little troll was Magsy the poor
little sod who crossed the line on the floor
To knock for admission inside the door
Where he asked if troll membership still needed more.

He then said what he could still bring to the table
Was a knowledge of circuitry where he was able
To advance the pretense of that scurrilous stable
That the unity barrier collapse was a fable

Though crowded the trolls said 'Pull up a chair.
Your knowledge is rank and your language is spare.
You're thin on IQ and you seem not to care
Which are precisely those talents that we hold most dear.'

So Magsy the man became MaGsy the mouse
The troll who lived in that rather soiled house
as an intern for schooling to learn how a souse
Can devolve from a troll to a lousy louse.


Rosie Pose
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