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Video: Working Gravity Wheel?

Started by 4Tesla, March 29, 2012, 02:58:09 AM

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Gwandau


christo4_99 and Low-Q,

I totally agree, magnet motors and gravity machines like this has to be constructed by a totally transparent non conductive material
like for example unbreakable polycarbon and the experiment must be performed on a glass table with perfect lighting, otherwise the credibility
of the whole thing will fail.

I would like to postulate this as a universal rule for anyone doing experiments involving permanent magnets or/and gravity,
since it is so frustrating to watch all these videos only showing parts of the mechanism or placed upon tables with an abundance
of possibilities to rig the whole thing.

I am really annoyed, since I am one of those that actually believe there must be a way to create the needed differential neccessary
to make these things work.

Now, since it is impossible to execute such a postulate once and for all, I will repeat this demand every single time there is anything
like that posted on overunity.com.

Gwandau

4Tesla

Yep.. it could be fake.. at :57 in the video there is a sound that sounds like air.  Such a nice build.. why do people spend so much time on fake motors?

Low-Q

Listen to the audio track. The audio has been edited. The sound of the ball is repeating all the time. Between each repeat it is silence before you hear the "ball start rolling again". The video has probably been muted at suitable places, so we cannot hear the air blowing on the wheel, but he hadn't the tools to edit away the pause in the sound.
Probably? Well, I am quite sure.

Edit: Actually, the sound recorded at the manual spin is used to fake this video...


One of few hoax that has bee busted before reaching 2 pages on this forum  ;D

Vidar

Energy4Power

Quote from: Low-Q on March 29, 2012, 03:09:13 PM
Listen to the audio track. The audio has been edited. The sound of the ball is repeating all the time. Between each repeat it is silence before you hear the "ball start rolling again". The video has probably been muted at suitable places, so we cannot hear the air blowing on the wheel, but he hadn't the tools to edit away the pause in the sound.
Probably? Well, I am quite sure.

Edit: Actually, the sound recorded at the manual spin is used to fake this video...


One of few hoax that has bee busted before reaching 2 pages on this forum  ;D

Vidar

Actually, to be fair, I've done a lot of audio editing and that is the exact effect you get when you remove "white noise" from the background of an audio file.  All the spaces between sounds you want to keep, get virtually muted (or he may have manually just muted them too) by the noise removal tool.  Audacity has a fairly easy 2 step tool for doing this.  First step is to grab a very short example of nothing but the white noise, and the second step is to use that sample to remove that sound from the rest of the audio selected.

... or it could be a fake, like you said.  My personal opinion though is that the audio is no reason to disregard this video.  I would rather be suspicious over the other items mentioned above - that it wasn't done on glass, with good lighting or in several locations.  So yes... possibly fake, but not because of what I hear on the audio.

Energy4Power

Low-Q

Quote from: Energy4Power on March 29, 2012, 10:23:57 PM
Actually, to be fair, I've done a lot of audio editing and that is the exact effect you get when you remove "white noise" from the background of an audio file.  All the spaces between sounds you want to keep, get virtually muted (or he may have manually just muted them too) by the noise removal tool.  Audacity has a fairly easy 2 step tool for doing this.  First step is to grab a very short example of nothing but the white noise, and the second step is to use that sample to remove that sound from the rest of the audio selected.

... or it could be a fake, like you said.  My personal opinion though is that the audio is no reason to disregard this video.  I would rather be suspicious over the other items mentioned above - that it wasn't done on glass, with good lighting or in several locations.  So yes... possibly fake, but not because of what I hear on the audio.

Energy4Power
Here is a sound comparison from two different places in the video. I copied one loop in left channel, and copied another loop later in the video at right channel. The visual audio output is zoomed in to easier see the comparison. Is it still any doubt that this video is a fake?
http://www.lyd-interior.no/Technical/Fake-sound.jpg


PS! They ar still slightly different, but that is caused by the sample rate, audio compression etc.

EDIT: Here is a sound file you can listen to. It is stereo where the two clips is on each channel. Listen to it and confirm that the sound is equal on left and right.
http://www.lyd-interior.no/Technical/Fake-sound.mp3

Vidar