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[profitis]

what you wanted was to learn how a certain class of concentration cells power themselves forever @sarkeizen.i showed you the relevant text from education institutions,enough to use your formula for logic to deduce everlasting behavior: these cells must equalize electrode concentrations,therefore they must pump gas from one electrode to the other,therefore they go flat with a pressure differiential,therefore they are capable of decompression when switched off and return to original status. Discharge,compression.relaxation,decompression.its as simple as that @sarkeizen.im the electrochemist here,you may bombard me with questions relevant to this class of concentration cell,the ambient pressure gaseous electrode concentration cell.

[profitis]

heres another way to prove a self-charging cell using textbooks: here,s a standard hydrogen electrode www.chemguide.co.uk/physical/redoxeqia/helectrode.gif .if you change anything in this electrode e.g. if we use smooth platinum instead of blackened platinum we will get a non-standard,different voltage from it.we apply your formula for logic @sarkeizen: a smooth platinum electrode and a standard platinum electrode under 1atm h2 at 298kelvin will constitute an standard pressure electrode concentration cell.one electrode will pump hydrogen onto the other in order to equilibrize potentials resulting in a gas pressure differential.ie. in pure logical terms that everyone can understand,theres a potential difference between a standard and non-standard gaseous electrode.work can be done.

[sarkeizen]

what you wanted was to learn how a certain class of concentration cells power themselves forever

Nope.  Unless you are the greatest moron who ever lived...which you may be.  What I wanted was a textbook cite either DIRECTLY stating the creating of something that will power something forever (which you have admitted doesn't exist) OR a textbook cite on some subject and a formal logical argument stemming from the CITED point directly to the conclusion.

I have asked for exactly those things so many times that you would really have to be the stupidest person who ever lived not to realize that's what I want.  I have even explained why that is important and why what you are doing is insufficient.  Again only an exceptionally unintelligent person would not recognize that.

[profitis]

Sigghh..a standard h2 electrode (o.o volt) + a non standard h2 electrode (something other than o.o volt) = electric cell @sarkeizen.do you honestly not remember your school electrochemistry.anode:h2 = 2h+ + 2e-. Cathode: 2h+ + 2e- = h2.these are the only possible reactions thus gas must be compressed...DURING ON PHASE.decompressed...DURING OFF PHASE.you would think that the fact that anyone can test this would convince you but no.its no wonder hardcastle deserted you.you wont even listen to reproducible evidence!   

[sarkeizen]

you would think that the fact that anyone can test this would convince you but no

Wasn't your argument that I don't have to see anything I only have to look at the textbooks?  I can go back and show you exactly where YOU say that.   Is that not your argument anymore?  If so, you just have to say that's not your argument anymore.  It's not hard. 

.its no wonder hardcastle deserted you.you wont even listen to reproducible evidence!

My recollection is that Philip couldn't argue his point to save his life.  I told him how information theory/complexity theory kind of kicks his idea in the head.  I cited at least one paper and he just went mute.  If I were to guess the reason it would be that Philip knows less than zero about the subject.

If Phillip's experimental evidence was so clear and reproducible there would be no trouble convincing a significant number of people.  However it's not convincing people because as many here have noted it's rather far from clear cut but hey I just gave you a chance to vent all those conspiracy and prejudice theories that you fantasize about.

So go nuts...(or simply further so)