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[sarkeizen]

A working replicated karpen pile or relative of a working replicated karpen pile

i) A device of the kind you describe must be "capable of running an ipod-like device eternally"
ii) Any claim of something running eternally can not be validated through pure empiricism.
iii) You claim that you can not create a formal argument to make your point.
iv) Therefore, no device of this kind can be ever said to be "working".

QED.

[profitis]

Phillip? Where's your response??

[Philip Hardcastle]

@profitis, I have answered you on the Karpen thread.

[sarkeizen]

Philip, where are my car keys and do you think you can pick up some milk on the way home?

[sarkeizen]

Just putting this back in the proper thread...

I agree that there are some 2lot violating ideas that do not fit with the classic demon, I say sebithenco is one as it does not require energy to be expended to do the sorting of kinetic energies

...and somehow it sorts without requiring information either.