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[MarkE]

Even if they only partially chargeup spontaneously over the gap we have a problem.

You can at any time attempt to compose an argument. It seems that you have as much difficulty stating an argument as you do publishing references that you claim are readily available.

[profitis]

Formal: atomic hydrogen is stable on platinum.unstable on the substrate.logical: atomic hydrogen rapidly recombines into floating H2 gas on the substrate.argument:H2 gas is then free to recycle straight back to the platinum. Perfect cycle @sarkeizen.

[profitis]

@mark E. IF the two seperate metal pieces are stable neutral or even partially charged over time it means that THAT is their lowest entropy state.they will want to go straight back to that state after a single contact charge cycle in violation of the 2nd law thermodynamics.so you or phil have no choice but to show that the seperate pieces will spontaneously charge fully over the openwide vaccuum gap.

[MarkE]

@mark E. IF the two seperate metal pieces are stable neutral or even partially charged over time it means that THAT is their lowest entropy state.they will want to go straight back to that state after a single contact charge cycle in violation of the 2nd law thermodynamics.so you or phil have no choice but to show that the seperate pieces will spontaneously charge fully over the openwide vaccuum gap.

LOL, are yu certain that is the hypothesis you want to apply to your claim?  If it is, then you are arguing against your own claim.

[sarkeizen]

Formal: atomic hydrogen is stable on platinum.unstable on the substrate.logical: atomic hydrogen rapidly recombines into floating H2 gas on the substrate.argument:H2 gas is then free to recycle straight back to the platinum. Perfect cycle @sarkeizen.

This isn't what I'm talking about and I asked you to provide a cite.