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Started by Philip Hardcastle, April 04, 2012, 05:00:30 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: Regster on November 20, 2012, 09:18:31 PM
@TK: You are over/under thinking this.  Phil has already published enough information to enable any organisation that does not have to abide by commercial rules to make/use it with a little trial and error (in terms of exact materials).   Everyone with an interest in this subject has seen the various permutations of his website so it's too late for "suppression".
Has anyone, anywhere, working in any laboratory for anybody, or even in his or her garage.... has anyone been able to replicate PJH's work and come to the same conclusions he has?
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In defence of the "dark forces", they are just guys looking after their familes like we are and I think you are giving "them" less credit than "they" deserve by implying that the only tactic they ever had was "suppression".  Maybe it was possible a couple of decades ago to delete a couple of people and that's it all done, but not now.
The USA sequesters patents under National Security reasons every year, and the rate of them doing this varies from year to year but is never zero. Most of these inventions, I presume, have military applications, and I'll bet you my next paycheck that none of them are nearly as significant as Quenco. No new science, IOW, in these suppressed patents.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/invention/stats.html
I don't know about the other kinds of suppression.... see below. Nor do we, as the American People, have the right to know what _nonpatented_ inventions have experienced this kind of action.... because nobody has to tell us, like they do for the patented ones.
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You seem to be sure that other forms of alternative energy have been "suppressed".  If that were true, and considering that the "dark forces" are certainly (collectively (it's a group thing)) a lot more intelligent than you are, what would you (in a method acting attempt at being the combined minds of several CotC PhDs and their highly intelligent employers) think "their" plans would be - considering that "they" (according to you) already have all that "suppressed" information/technology - in the event that something valid and practically open-sourced that they could not "suppress" came to light?
Do you think from my comments that I actually DO believe in the kinds of "suppression" that people _claim_ are keeping Free Energy inventions from freeing the world of the Tyranny of Big Oil? Is English your first language, or am I just not being clear? I think I said right out in plain words, that either PJH has what he claims and there is no suppression conspiracy, or he does not have what he claims....  in which case neither the US national security apparatus nor any other suppression agents will give a flying fish about it, whether or not a suppression conspiracy exists. Either way it's OK with me.
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And before you embarrass yourself by answering I'll do you a favour.... that isn't a question, it's just a snidey comment.
It's a very long snidey comment, TLDR. Just kidding. The best zingers are short and sweet.
But why should I be embarrassed? I'm not the one making extravagant claims without support.

catbauer24

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 20, 2012, 04:57:58 PM
....Quenco will be immediately used on all battlefields on this poor Earth as soon as it is available to the combatants, if they are using anything more sophisticated than machetes and burning-tire necklaces.
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Please promise us you'll do everything you can so that the world is not subjected to such a deadly thing as free energy!!  At least you have convinced everyone it is a terrible idea... if you keep your work up we'll be safe for sure...

TinselKoala

Heh.... no, there are many kinds of free energy that won't be useful on the Battlefield Earth or be destabilising. Rossi's 1 MW Ecat, the ZED, any gravity wheel.... bring it on, I ain't worried, we are not going to see Ecat powered missiles or gravity-wheel main battle tanks.... A HoJoMo in every fighter jet, the Sword of God as the depot-level powerplant in the rear, Little Miss Mosfet heaters providing hot showers for the troops, Orbo-powered CD players and electric razors.
But something like Quenco.... gives one pause, for sure. Personally I'd like to see an upheaval in the status quo, until I remember what suffering it will cause. Then I think that maybe Quenco is the key to Pandora's Box (or jar). Open it, and you mightn't like everything that comes flying out, and for sure you won't be able to stuff it back inside.

Elisha


Philip Hardcastle
He has made ​​great strides.


Yeah, it underestimated the time to implement his invention, and we all happened and understandably, knowing that he works with machines that lend at universities, there is a whole bureaucracy, besides the technical details, but has made great strides in a short time.


How many of us have heard of great ideas that work in a laboratory, but it takes many years and a large budget when being deployed commercially, Philip has done all this without asking for a dime from anyone, all with their own money , risking not only their live but their financial future.


It also has a patent in a few months will be in everyone's hands.


If Philip delay the launch day, I'll understand. He is spending time and money, I only spending a short time reading and writing a few lines of text. (I also damaged oven and melted two tubes, proving that it is true the experiment proposed by Philip).


Yes I share with all, the fear that Quenco, be used for purposes of mass destruction, but there is no way to prevent this, the only thing we can do is educate the human being, to learn from history it's much better, the path of personal sacrifice for the common good, that the path of war and mutual destruction.

ramset

Sounds more like a challenge of a different flavor.........

We all know the right thing to do ,..In some ways we always have !

The fact that 5 billion plus souls on this rock can't voice an opinion here, due to the fact that just surviving from day to day is all consuming [never mind no infrastructure, medicine, clean water, etc].
The fact that their needs and lives could be enhanced ?

The challenge is to us ,the "haves"  [the real one percent].

Great machines sit idling ....potentials being wasted , whole industries dissapear from our midst.. Void of productivity. Save  for the possibility of resource,  the resource that eludes us  do to an old business model of greed and selfishness..........

Fear thats very easy to come by [ pandoras box], when Faith is in short supply!

We have a huge need placed in front of us .. A demand for goods and services!,
A market that the greedy would pray for...[ a market of 5 billion plus]

You wan't to change the world ?

be that change!!

What works will you do?  Will you leave your fate in the hands of fear?

I hope not........

Thx
Chet





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