magnetic perpetual motion

[seraphis]

Hi guys,

I have attached another foreign patent translation. This one's from Japan - 1978.

Enjoy.

[gyulasun]

Hi guys,

Magnet motors have been around for over one hundred years.

See attachment.

Hi seraphis,

Very interesting motor setup, using only permanent magnets and soft iron cores, I have not yet seen such arrangement with them in such combination.  Thank you for the the very good translation from French if it was done by you. 
Would like to ask if you are aware of any attempts to replicate this motor? Would be very good to see it working... 

I just noticed your second upload on the Japan magnet motor.  If you happen to have some more translations on the H02K53 patent area from other foreign patents, that would be also good to read...  but I know a lot of Chinese or Korean patents are just  ideas, most of them can be seen at once as impossible setups.  Surely there are some pearls like the French one, I like it because after reading it a few times  I cannot say it would be impossible...

Thanks, Gyula

[seraphis]

Hello Gyula,

If you are interested in doing patent searches then I suggest using the following classifications.

H02K53, H02N11, H02K57, F03G7. There are other class. but these are the main ones.

I have been searching and collecting copies of patents for many, many years and you are right to suggest that there are 'pearls' out there. Because there are many. And you are also correct in your assessment about Chinese and Korean patent applications as being overimaginative and unrealistic. However I do believe that the Korean mind is very creative and I will be posting some patent translations worthy of serious consideration. I will also be posting more from Japan, France, Russia and Germany. Some old(1879), some new(2012).

Thanks,

seraphis

[gyulasun]

Hi seraphis,

Thanks for the classification info (some of them was known to me, years ago I also searched some of them in patent offices and since the web the online possibility is much convenient of course) and looking forward to reading some of your 'pearls'.   

My best shot so far has been this US patent application (and I strongly doubt a final patent will ever be granted) from a Japanese guy, Makoto Ogoshi, perhaps you have also come across him in one of his (Japanese or international) patents out of the several ones he has applied or been granted so far.  So my "pearl"  is this application: US2005140231, Power generator and torque amplifier, a simple link is here:

  http://www.google.com/patents/US20050140231

[In the Example section of the application the inventor wrote the input power was 8 times 50W=400W (from eight 24V DC motors) and the output power was 2 kW AC...]

rgds,  Gyula

[ruin41]

I see way too many flaws in this from the device to to the story. A guy who is clearly practical with both metal wood and magnets cant make a brake One could easily hide the batteries and coil to drive this in the wood as we have all seen before but the switch took me a while to figure but 2 wires up through the uprights would work for this since the metal rod of the shaft now becomes the switch and stops it going flat while sitting on the shelf and if you really got clever and used rechargables these could be used to recharge it as well. This seems to me to be the only way to explain why it doesnt have something simple to hold the rotor in place.  Its cute that broken magnets only go back together 180 degrees to their original situation but nothing in those 2 parts has actaully changed they are still north and south at the same ends as they were before.