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[sevich]

VANDUGEGS,

I Just happen to have a spare five thousand bucks to invest in your "working wheel" .......YEAH RIGHT!!



Your debt to poore old Clarkie from "besslerwheel.com" sits at roughly $15.000 while you continue to ignore repayments.  (you're in default big time) ...LOL



HOW DARE YOU SEEK INVESTORS  ....you snake!



anton

[VANDUGEGS]

slncspkr,

I will explain, the reason for the amount of $1,000.00

When I took a plane to Toronto, I had everything tacken care of, plane fare, accomidations, taxi, everything, both ways. Except for the unexpeted. When I arrived at the hotel, they needed a deposit for the room, I had a bank  account and used some of the funds. I was lucky I was not empty handed. Pete said he would take care of everything and he did. Befoore I arrived back in Edmonton, everything was tacken care of as he said it would be.
If I did not have some of my own funds, then a problem may have happened.
The funds for the trip are for the unforceen, I do not want to arrive empty handed. The extra is for the unknowen, what ever is left can be returned.

Darrell

PS Maybe I should tell the story from 14 years ago?

[hartiberlin]

Hi Darrel,
it seems from the conversation I have seen on Besslerwheel.com,
that you take money from other people and don?t show them anything for it
and use every excuse what you can find to prevent them seeing something...

I guess, if you really have something it is time to come forward publically
and show something real working...

Other inventors must also work for their living to finance their hobby to
build these devices, why do you just try to fool investors, so that you don?t need
to work and get financed without delivering proof of concept ?

[VANDUGEGS]

Hi Stefan,

((it seems from the conversation I have seen on Besslerwheel.com,
that you take money from other people and don?t show them anything for it
and use every excuse what you can find to prevent them seeing something...))

When I read this, it sounds like I have dealt with alot of people. I have traveled to see only one person, I have showen that person enought for them to decide wether to continue or not. That one person made their own choice. I do not use excuses, I only show what I can. If what I show is not good enough or they cannot understand, then they should not get involved.

((I guess, if you really have something it is time to come forward publically
and show something real working...))

Like I have said, I will not toss away 25 years of work, only to prove to a few people, what I have and that is if they can even understand what they are looking at.

((Other inventors must also work for their living to finance their hobby to
build these devices, why do you just try to fool investors, so that you don?t need
to work and get financed without delivering proof of concept ?))

Like I said, I would not won't any funding from anyone who does not understand what they are doing.
I am not tring to fool anyone. They can sign an NDA and if I decide they can do something that will benifit the company, then I make the final decision.

Each person should make their own decisions, not only from what they read but from the facts..

Darrell

[slncspkr]

@darrell
words are meaningless now these days.
if i had a working machine like the one you said you have or if i knew how to build it and i was sure is going to work. I look for a job and then make some money. and then start putting the machine together. and then i'd all my money back after showing it, because just by showing it with a scientific proof that the machine works you can make a lot more than $1,000.00.
sorry darrell but i do'nt think you have or know how to put a machine like that together, because in the first place if you knew how to put it together you would not need to call on engineers to build it for you.
jose.