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supercapacitors will trump batteries

Started by vironika, May 03, 2012, 06:46:49 AM

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fritznien

Quote from: sparks on July 14, 2012, 11:55:34 AM
A fully charged Tesla capacitor trumps them all.   10to the 10th farads at 10,000 volts.  The mass of the copper is used in a tesla coil/cap not the surface area.  These supercaps are just increased surface reactions.  Tesla realized if you don't want your dielectric to perforate you had better make damn sure your geometry is correct.  Capaciitor mfgs. just keep doing the same old same old to increase power density.  A 30lb tesla coil cap could power an electric vehicle for close to six months without recharge.  The supercaps a second maybe. The increased surface area relies solely on skin effects. In etching aluminum to create more surface area the result is that more charge resides on the edges of the etch than in the substrate.  Deposition of the dielectric has to be increased due to the edge effects and results in a real mess.  Voltage ratings have to be lowered self-healing chemistry-capacitors opening up due to internal lightning eddy currents on and on.
Tesla broached the problem back in the 19th century totally unheeded by the idiots developing secret electrolytes and polluting rivers streams and harbors with poly-chlorinated bi-phenols. Most of you here are aware of the problems integrated circuits are having with parasitic capacitance.  Tesla didn't have a problem with parasitic capacitance he utilized it.  The big circuit between the ionosphere f1 layer and the big charged up ball we ride around on produced parasitic capacitance effects in Tesla's circuits.  I believe it was quite intentiional.  Tesla wanted to use this effect to charge and discharge the total mass of copper wire strung between points a and b.  Charging and discharging this megacapacitor through a generator.  The generator inductance matched to the capacity of the entire network.  Man was truly ingenious.

how do you make a 10 gigafarad cap rated at 10kv that wieghs only 30 pounds?
almost as useful as OU.
fritznien

broli

It's very easy to talk nonsense but much harder to act it out, please show us this superultramegagigacapacitor you speak of that Tesla made and I'll forget about ultacapacitors.

TechStuf




QuoteTesla realized if you don't want your dielectric to perforate you had better make damn sure your geometry is correct.


Good one, Sparks!


Ask yourself why the PTB would spend 20 thousand million dollars just to find out if the "God particle" is even a viable pathway to the beginning of a whisp of an idea in support of the Higgs "theory", when 'they' are already exploiting various alternative quantum principles that render the higgs null and void.


When I look at the Flagellar Motor, 8 million of which would fit end to end in the cross section of a human hair, with all it's parts in place, just so.....I have to laugh heartily at what man, in his rank infancy is trying to lay hold of....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NFgjiumiAw


Oh, and:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NFgjiumiAw




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bugler

Quote from: TechStuf on July 16, 2012, 02:57:10 AM

Ask yourself why the PTB would spend 20 thousand million dollars just to find out if the "God particle" is even a viable pathway to the beginning of a whisp of an idea in support of the Higgs "theory", when 'they' are already exploiting various alternative quantum principles that render the higgs null and void.
Science (and everything else) is dead.


We are witnessing the end of our "empire". Self-destruction from parasites with an IQ of 94 (at most).
But the majority of people desrerve the coming catastrophy as they are too stupid to grasp anything beyond their tv (like watching this vídeo: [size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_vwzjdTi4[/size] )

sparks

the super capacitors are 5 farads at what 3 volts.  Capacitance increases with the square of the voltage.  So go from 3 to 10,003.  Which is an increase of 10,000 volts.  or 3,333 times the supercap voltage.  So your faradic rating is 3,333 squared times 5.   3.3 to the third squared is 10 to the 6th times 5 or 5 times 10to the 7th.  Or 500 million farads.  Now we know that the supercapacitors use granulated activated carbon which has huge amounts of surface area.  But the voltage has to to be low because it's pointy.  Tesla geometry speaks directly to the problem of dielectric breakdown due to uneven charge being distributed in the capacitor dielectric interface.  This gives rise to eddy currents instead of electrostatic currents and dielectric "electricfication".
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