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Overunity Machines Forum



Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?

Started by hartiberlin, July 12, 2006, 10:42:03 AM

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magnetman12003

Hi All,

Go back to page 1 and review the movie setup that had a heavy ring magnet rollaway at tracks end.

The way this first setup works is exactly what I had in mind when I created the last video you saw.

The point being is that the first movie you saw on page one with the ring magnets big rollaway could not be constructed in a circular fashion.

Now to the present track.  Using nothing but powerfull neodymium magnets spaced apart as illustrated one can do the same thing.

That will require a lot of time experimenting with magnet selection, placement, and a lot of effort ON YOUR PART.  

This track when taken to the next level can lend itself to be be made in a circular form.   In any event you must get the "INERTIA OF THE MAGNETS MOVING MASS TO OVERCOME THE MAGNETIC TRACKS PULL" just like the track on the first page with a big rolloff.  I used a lot of powerfull 1.75 inch long neodymium magnets there.  13 of them to be exact.   The rest were stacked ceramic disks.

In this latest track I only illustrated whats possible- not a big track end rollaway or a full blown motor setup.  I used plentifull weak ceramics to illustrate a point that the ring magnet can and does travel on this type track which can be made cylindrical.


By only experimenting only with SMALL magnets used as a track RUNNER you will find that very tricky to perform if not impossible. Quite frankly I have never seen a movie of a magnet tracks end rolloff anywhere using nothing but small track runners.


Looking at the future:

Take the present linear 45 degree offset track and construct it into a circular cylinder shaped form.

Now envision a CENTRAL single bearing point with two arms extending out of it.  At the end of each arm is a ring magnet in a vertical position facing the tracks cylider shaped walls.

With nothing but magnetic attraction always running ahead of the rings with a smaller attraction force on the backside of the ring magnets you can envision a force imbalance.  Result is movement.  

Maybe someone better equiped with time and patience can take this to the next level.  Tom



konduct

Unfortunately, it may not be possible to configure the magnets in a circular fashion.  When you angle them in a circle, the top and bottom distances become misaligned to the ring magnet due to the arc in the circle.  A bit of a paradox!

magnetman12003

Hi,

If the arc circle is large enough this angle might be insignificant.

Time permits I will try it when I get the linear track working perfectly.    One small step at a time.   

Just for the heck of it - I have to ask---- Is anyone interested enough to try this concept out?


Tom

Dingus Mungus

I plan on re-replicating my TOMI mid track drop ramp. It can do that with escape velocity and a angle on the track meaning the magnet lifts itself alowing it to be dropped on to the next ramp. I may need to order some more magnets first though, but I'm wishing I had video of my findings.

Congrats on the sucessful experiment and I look foward to seeing what your next experiment with the track will be. Keep up the good work!

~Dingus

roggy32

What if you used the smot devices to move a ball and drop it on a wheel with other balls on the wheel which when they hit a certain position could be knocked off the wheel onto the smot ramp and thus providing the loop and excess energy.

looked at this device  and saw the ramp with the wheel and figured if you can move the ball up the ramp with the smot you might be able to get the wheel to turn.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1688.0;attach=4178;image