Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?

[mikestocks2006]

Good News, The circular version's fields seem to look very similar to the linear track. Now I'll try to duplicate the linear track in the 3D simulator to see what I can come up with.

God Bless,
Jason O

Jason
Nice work!

One might say sure does look like a toroid too!

[Jdo300]

Hi Jason,

Great Artwork,

I dont have the software program to do that and glad you do.

Can you illustrate a total motor idea rendition showing a centerpoint with two long arms attached to it.  At both ends of those swinging pivoting arms a ring magnet would be attached in a vertical position.

Now take the 45 degree vertical rod setup made in a circular fashion and and center it around the outsides of the ring magnets as close as possible without touching  This should portray what the motor might look like once completed.    Tom

Hi Tom,

I'd be happy to. But could you perhaps draw up a rough sketch showing what you want. I'm not sure I understand what you are doing based on the description.

Good News, The circular version's fields seem to look very similar to the linear track. Now I'll try to duplicate the linear track in the 3D simulator to see what I can come up with.

God Bless,
Jason O

Jason
Nice work!

One might say sure does look like a toroid too!

Hi, Actually, the secret to a working magnet motor is a vortical or spiral shape of the fields. The closed loop problem is then not a problem because there technically isn't a closed flux path except around the circle. The only major problem remaining is flux linkage. In most full circle magnet setups, the reason it stops working after looped is becuse the fields short through the magnets rather than spreading out into the open air like open tracks. Hence, no interaction with the rotor and no biased rotation.

God Bless,
Jason O

[magnetman12003]

Hi all,

I hope you can render a total 3D rendition of this Jason as it is what I visualize what the motor might look like.   This is the top view looking down into a circular "Cage" made out of spaced out 45 degree verticaly mounted rod magnets as crudely illustrated.  Only three mounted rod magnets face "BOTH" rotating ring magnets at any time.  This is in keeping everything as simple as possible.

On the inside of the cage and not touching the cage at all is a central one bearing mounted pivot point where two long arms can rotate 360 degrees all day long.

At the ends of both arms a large ring magnet is mounted just like a car tire is mounted on an axle. Both ring magnets dont have to touch anything at all nor do they ride on the bottom of the cage floor.  The magnetic flux alone from the cage walls attracts the "close" ring magnets into a never ending circular rotation.  2 ring magnets are needed for proper motor balace while spinning.

You might ask what about the rod magnet repel forces working on the top of the ring magnets.  Both those forces repel each other and since the vertically mounted ring magnet is pinned to the pivot arm it will stay in one position and will not try to turn or slip sideways.  If anything -- it also repels the ring magnet along while the ring magnet always attracts to the "Newest" rod North pole presented in front of it.          Tom

[magnetman12003]

The diagram I prviously sent mistakenly said disk magnet on the bottom. That should be a ring magnet. There are two of them.      Tom

[magnetman12003]

I am getting real sleepy guys-  Bed time for me.   The motor should rotate the other way than what is shown also.    Tom