Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower

[a.king21]

The law of entropy contradicts the conservation law.
The universe is expanding, therefore a continuous energetic expansion.
The conservation law was formulated at a time when physicists though the universe
was a steady state. They were wrong.  That's why science is exciting.
Believe nothing; verify everything; is my motto.
The electron has been orbiting the nucleus for 13.5 billion years(?) or so science says.
Some perpetual motion machine - which never needs plugging in.

[Farmhand]

The known Universe may be expanding but what of what we do not know ? What is the Universe expanding into ? A weather balloon expands as it rises in the atmosphere.

Seems to me the scientists are just making assumptions based on what they know or can observe. What they do not know and observe dwarfs what they do know.

I'm not touting the Laws of Thermodynamics, I saying what appears to be logical to me.

Everything that ever was has always been in existence in some form. And it has been always, there is no beginning and no end, in the big scheme of things over many many gazzilions of years the Universe will not disappear into nothing and nothing will appear out of nowhere. Is how I see it and it is an assumption based on logic.

None of us can say for sure, but all the evidence points to the inability to create energy or matter from nothing. No one can show it.

Show me a box full of absolutely nothing, no air no gasses nothing, an absolute vacuum, with not one single hydrogen atom,energy or anything in it and then explain how we could bring forth something from that box without adding anything to it, no energy or matter at all.

Just showing a box full of nothing is impossible. As far as I know it is not possible to create an absolute vacuum, and space is not an absolute vacuum. There is an accepted level of vacuum, that cannot be passed as far as I am aware.

The big bang was not the beginning of everything because nothing cannot go bang, there needs to be something there to go bang to begin with, this is an axiom.

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Scientists make theories and try to prove them using numbers and such. When they think they have proof they make it an accepted theory, still a theory.

Science is not an exact science. No pun intended.

How could nothing all of a sudden go bang and spring forth a Universe out of nothingness or non existence. Everything in the Universe which should really be called the Omniverse always was in existence. I see no other logical explanation. Religious people say God created everything but who created God.

If God can create things from nothing could he have created himself from nothing ? Or brought himself into existence from absolutely nothing.

In my opinion there is no such thing as "nothing" by definition.

..It's word soup I know but there is a truth in there that in my opinion cannot be overlooked.

Come to think of it a box containing a vacuum would have significant potential as I imagine it, as would be witnessed if it was punctured in the atmosphere.

A vacuum can be discharged. Or an evacuated vessel may be discharged or however it may be termed.

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Dimensions are another weird thing, a so called three dimensional box can be measured in many dimensions.

When we move our hand about in space no real dimensional barriers are crossed. Dimensions are for measurements. They are mental constructs, not real things. Same as time.

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[tinman]

Quote a.king21: The universe is expanding, therefore a continuous energetic expansion.

How do they know the universe is expanding,when they dont know how big the universe is?. Dose the universe have an end?, if not,then how do they know it is expanding?. They asume it's expanding because the galaxies are picking up speed,and moving further apart from one another-but from which frame of reference?. It is thought this is because of the big attractor-a large cluster of galaxies pulling in the known galaxies.

Thinking about the universe having an end or not,is enough to tear your head apart. What would the end of the universe be?-a solid wall (like we are all in a giant fish bowl) or just nothingness. Maybe we just end up going in a big circle,and end up right back where we started from- a looped system.

Quote: The law of entropy contradicts the conservation law.

There is no law of entropy,it is the second law of thermodynamics.
The first is- energy is not created or destroyed.
The third is-absolute zero cannot be achieved.

Quote: In traditional thermodynamics, entropy is a measure of the amount of energy in a closed system that is no longer available to effect changes in that system. A system is closed when no energy is being added to or removed from it, and energy becomes unavailable not by leaving the system, but by becoming irretrievably disordered, as a consequence of the laws of statistical mechanics. But even though the total amount of energy that is irretrievably disordered will increase, this does not mean order cannot increase somewhere else in that same system. This is where confusion arises. Of course, entropy can be measured in an open system, too, but this introduces additional variables, and of course the Second Law then no longer applies. But even when the Second Law applies, it is still possible for a closed system to produce order, even highly elaborate order, so long as there is a greater increase in disorder somewhere else in the system.


Even when matter and antimatter come together and annihilate one another into non existance,there energies are transformed,not destroyed.

Quote: The electron has been orbiting the nucleus for 13.5 billion years(?) or so science says.
Some perpetual motion machine - which never needs plugging in.

Cool-so what happens if we draw energy from this perpetual motion machine?-better still,how do we do it?.

[ingyenenergiagep]

^{The electron has been orbiting the nucleus for 13.5 billion years(?) or so science says.}

Yes. This is one good example.

The energy is no more or less in closed system.
But  perfectly closed system not exist in the Universe. ;-)
Use the tricks: gravitational force, magnetic repelling and the power of resonance.
We need a machine only that gives us electricity and/or heat from 1 to 20kw.

[markdansie]

Brilliant Reply Tinman
Still applauding
Mark