Bessler , Karl I! The fat lady is gonna sing , haters bring it I'm not skeered .

[zoelra]

@Circle

Was your hillbilly friend the grandson of the inventor or a grandson of a person that worked at the farm and helped operate the device and saw mill?

[Bob Smith]

This?
http://home.roadrunner.com/~sccinfo/asawheel.htm

http://www.keelynet.com/jackpmm/jackpmm.htm

B

[zoelra]

@Bob

If you are referring to the wheel, Circle is talking about the Buzzsaw Gravity Wheel (aka Keenie Wheel), or at least another revision by the same inventor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozcd12QTNrw

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:BuzzSaw_Gravity_Wheel


@Circle (in case you missed my previous post)

Was your hillbilly friend the grandson of the inventor or a grandson of a person that worked at the farm and helped operate the device and saw mill?

[circle]

to the best of my knowledge there is no relation
the family i am refering to was already dug in deep into the hills long before either the hatfields or mccoys arrived
if the old stories in that family are accurate they had a hand in putting an invading british colonel in his grave and also in setting up a root beer outfit in 1919
this last was done to gain a method of bringing such things as sugar, corn, and copper tubbing into the area without having to travel down from the hills and into town for it
that root beer outfit is still around and mentions the 1919 date on its label

while tall tales can sometimes prove to be founded on little, the fact is this friend of mine produced these detailed personal accounts moments after i showed him the pic of the 'buzzsaw' wheel
i had known him for 20+ years at the time.. and he had never bothered to mention this..
his accounts included all that i had found in the posted information and lots more
it was 2009 and i was actually filling him in on the fact that i had made a post on this website about the device i had 'solved' as i showed him that image

although my friend may be a bit out of touch with his roots, there is no question his grandfather was a man of means and uncommon knowledge
one of the old tales told to me about him was of a time when the sheriff arrived to inquire about one of his sons.. who had seen fit to let himself out of the county jail
the old granpa lit with his cigar then tossed a stick of dynamite under the sheriffs car and said "way i recon it.. you'uns gots about 30 secont ta get'on out'a here"
..was plenty of time for him to walk over and pull the lit cord out of the stick after they left
this sounds not much different from the way they have reportedly dealt with 'revenuers'
from what i have heard, it would be ill advised to wander up into the hills uninvited
but hey.. it's all hearsay.. do your own investigation

[zoelra]

I find it extremely unlikely that two individuals could have invented gravity wheels at almost the same time, and of the same design.

So either your hillbilly friend is related to the original inventor (who was a descendent of Bessler), was related to someone that worked for the inventor, or was related to someone that ripped off the idea from the inventor.