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[johnny874]

  Chris,
I have posted links before to some basic work I have done, zzzzzzzz.
Still, to understand Bessler's drawings, understanding basic concepts in engineering is essential. After all, it is a mechanical wheel that I falsely claim uses hydraulic and pneumatic principles as a part of it's dynamic system of operation.
Of course, some people have said it's not mechanical, but if you look at Bessler's drawings, mechanics and gravity seems to be what his drawings are about. It's just that with a basic pump like the attached video's, how would you modify them so they could work within the concept of a wheel ?
For me, I think that's when Bessler's work comes "alive". By the way, the last video shows the effects of a 100% over balance that can only be achieved by using water. If 8 weights were used, since they are all in balance with each other, acceleration or speed of rotation would probably be about the same. If the wheel were 40 inches in diameter instead of the 20 shown, it would probably have about the same velocity but would have 1/2 the rpm because of the increase in the circumference of the wheel.
And if you can understand these things, then you would probably find Bessler's drawings interesting because they explain some of what he wrote. And that would help in building an authentic Bessler type wheel.
One quote of Bessler's from his Poetica Apolgetica,
http://besslerwheel.com/writings/apologia.html
>> The things we eat run through every limb and sinue of our bodies.                    <<
A reference to our blood stream and I think it is in Mt 27 where he shows a heart shaped weight.
http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Mt_027.gif
And channel E is where a weight "rolls". The pumps would work in a rolling type motion because they would match the curve of the wheel. Still, it does get tiring being criticized for working on Bessler's wheel in the gravity section of an overunty forum which is German owned. It would seem this would be the place to work on an obscure part of German history, like I said, this seems like it should be the place but have usually been told I am in the wrong place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4ktQDJW53g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOl2dJaavS8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOl2dJaavS8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFXZU1xGL94

[johnny874]

@pirate88719,
I showed your friends post. ever since he has posted in this part of the forum, I have been nothing but harassed by thr two of you.
like when you posted you like it where smart people like him show me where I wrong when all he did  was repost what I had already posted. and what did I do to piss the two of you off ? I posted an idea that was gravity powered.

[Pirate88179]

@pirate88719,
I showed your friends post. ever since he has posted in this part of the forum, I have been nothing but harassed by thr two of you.
like when you posted you like it where smart people like him show me where I wrong when all he did  was repost what I had already posted. and what did I do to piss the two of you off ? I posted an idea that was gravity powered.

WTF?

Jim, or Johnny or BA Hammer or whatever you are going by these days.......my post had NOTHING to do with you...ok?  TK is NOT my friend....I have never met him or spoke with him or pm'd him.  I do have a lot of respect for the work he has done here and also the fact that he freely shares his work is great also.  I wish I had the chance to meet TK and become friends....but I have no idea where here lives.

The stuff you have posted have been proven lies....over and over.  You have claimed that Stefan, the owner of this forum, has admitted to you in a private e-mail that he does not think that overunity is possible.  But, you can't seem to reproduce this famous pm.  You claim that you have 5 Bessler designs that work but yet you can't seem to make even one of them?  Even though a child can do it? (your words)

Some guy named Allan is stopping you from making anything?  Now TK is stopping you?  And now I am somehow doing this?

If somehow you can stop your lies....you may actually have something to contribute here.  You posit some interesting ideas and theories....but...you never try them out or, when someone else does...you claim they stole it from you. (Like that poor guy named Allan)

TK and I have had our differences on here but, I will always stand up for him for sharing his knowledge, and helping to debunk some bs design that someone is selling on the net.  I have learned from him and I am grateful.

Clean up your act and get with the program and build something that works....or not.  At least you tried....folks will respect that.  Telling us you have all of these OU designs that work, but you won't share or build them to prove that they do is stupid.

Bill

[Aemilius]

Pirate88179 "Telling us you have all of these OU designs that work, but you won't share or build them to prove that they do is stupid."

Just a new guy here but, sorry johnny874, I really have to agree with Pirate88179. I just got done with "My Invention" where there was no invention, just a variation on the Milkovic arrangement, and now this.... Well, at least this one was only two pages instead of ten!

"Silence is better than unmeaning words" - Pythagoras

[johnny874]

bill,
like ab hammer and tk both say, my medical problems don't matter. considering I'm off work because of them, not sure where they went to medical school.

@Aem, milkovic's pendulum is not perpetual. the improvement that would allow for it to work perpetually would make it my invention. also have been told in this forum that people should refrain from patenting ANY invention. if tbey are that charitable, then donating patent rights to charity should be something they're willing to do to show tbey're about something other than looking for a free energy.

@bill, have been working on the mechanics but bs can be distracting. it is like the best way I can think of to seal a tube is by setting the two sides of tbe tube into the outer part of the wheel. not an easy thing to do.
so all I can do for now is work on construction techniques and better linkage for pumps and levers.
will need to be back at work so I can rent shop space again. but will be worth it to demonstrate that it is something Bessler could have built with the materials he had available back then.