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[Pirate88179]

TK is correct.  I made my fountain, and created my topic after watching about 10 or more of his videos.  My video was a replication and not my original idea.  I gave full credit in my video along with links and a schematic that I used to make it.  I also credited TK, not because we are best buddies, but because that is where I got the idea to make my project.

Once again, Jim does not tell the truth.

Bill

[johnny874]

TK is correct.  I made my fountain, and created my topic after watching about 10 or more of his videos.  My video was a replication and not my original idea.  I gave full credit in my video along with links and a schematic that I used to make it.  I also credited TK, not because we are best buddies, but because that is where I got the idea to make my project.

Once again, Jim does not tell the truth.

Bill

   Bill,
Here is the first post in your thread. I don't see where anything you are claiming to have mentioned was posted.
>>   Heron's Fountain« on: August 28, 2012, 09:22:21 PM » This past weekend I constructed a Heron's Fountain according to the attached diagram.  I will post a video of it in operation when I get a chance.  This is a really cool project and cost me nothing to build.  It is amazing to see the water lifted higher than the starting point.  More later...

Bill   <<   @all, here is a link to youtube where many people have built a Heron's Fountain and a link to Wikipedia.org.  http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+heron%27s+fountain&oq=+heron%27s+fountain&gs_l=youtube.3..0j0i5.7937.7937.0.9657.1.1.0.0.0.0.106.106.0j1.1.0.echs..0.0...1ac.1.bWDmhbHxHI8 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heron%27s_fountain

edited to add; the link in Bill's post is to blogspot and not a video.

edited to add; the definition of jealous from M-W.com2: hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage   My advantage is my schooling and willingness to learn. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jealous?show=0&t=1350057965

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• Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2012, 09:46:56 PM » TK and all:
  
  I have old Johnny on ignore and can't see what he is posting...I am sure I am not missing much.  Ignore is such a great feature.  and this after TK posted this;Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2012, 02:22:47 PM »
  
        
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  Well, I was gonna wait until Bill posted his video of his fountain, but after that last set of drawings from johnny874 I feel rather obligated to point out that I published the video below on YouTube on August 25th.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlLYD4CSJLU and if you watch his video, it is what else that was posted, from gadgetmall;Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2012, 11:07:26 PM » Love it Bill . It's nice to see you and other friendlies doing some more research on stuff  and Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2012, 07:15:16 PM » Thanks Bill!
  
  Here's the "extended version" with the pingpong ball chamber. It's a spacer, really, from the ideas given by Conradelektro and the wiki pages, and my own realisation that the fountain depends on the difference in levels between source and receiver reservoirs. The easiest way for me to add a spacer was just to put another jar in the stack, and have it function as an extended air conduit. The pingpong balls are there to reduce the active air volume in the extra vent space, so that it's not as "springy". The external plumbing of this version might make the operation clearer.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3UGTyc36f4
  
  I think I'll put another spacer in the stack, just to see how high it will actually pump. end quote.  nothing in common with what I designed. If you look at tinselfkoal's design, it is what Bill posted using 2 chambers. What I posted uses only one. A very significant difference. and again what tinselfkoala said about my design; Re: Modified Heron's Fountain« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 03:08:22 PM » You just wait. Someday, when I can get out of bed, I'll build the world's best perpetual motion machine, using a 2000 year old design,end quote. In tinselfkoala's own words he did not think it was possible. Yet Bill says such statements verify his friend's claims that I stole their idea. And to repeat about Bill saying he is not tinselfkoala's friend, am quoting gadgetmall; Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2012, 11:07:26 PM »Love it Bill . It's nice to see you and other friendlies doing some more research on stuff

[johnny874]

  bill,
don't tell me because I seperated elevation/pressure heads that's your friend tk's idea.
if you look at the diagram on wikipedia, that is what Heron did so his pressure heads could act independently.
That is not your friend's discovery which you both falsely claim is his invention.

edited to add; bill, I read what tk posted in your thread. she went as far as using ping pong balls to DECREASE the volume of the lower chamber to make a more efficient HERON'S FOUNTAIN.
Yet he is claiming credit for Heron's discovery, ok.

[Pirate88179]

   Bill,
Here is the first post in your thread. I don't see where anything you are claiming to have mentioned was posted.
>>   Heron's Fountain« on: August 28, 2012, 09:22:21 PM » This past weekend I constructed a Heron's Fountain according to the attached diagram.  I will post a video of it in operation when I get a chance.  This is a really cool project and cost me nothing to build.  It is amazing to see the water lifted higher than the starting point.  More later...

Bill   <<   @all, here is a link to youtube where many people have built a Heron's Fountain and a link to Wikipedia.org.  http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+heron%27s+fountain&oq=+heron%27s+fountain&gs_l=youtube.3..0j0i5.7937.7937.0.9657.1.1.0.0.0.0.106.106.0j1.1.0.echs..0.0...1ac.1.bWDmhbHxHI8 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heron%27s_fountain

edited to add; the link in Bill's post is to blogspot and not a video.

edited to add; the definition of jealous from M-W.com2: hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage   My advantage is my schooling and willingness to learn. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jealous?show=0&t=1350057965

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(http://www.overunity.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif)Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2012, 09:46:56 PM » TK and all:

I have old Johnny on ignore and can't see what he is posting...I am sure I am not missing much.  Ignore is such a great feature.  and this after TK posted this;Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2012, 02:22:47 PM »Quote
Well, I was gonna wait until Bill posted his video of his fountain, but after that last set of drawings from johnny874 I feel rather obligated to point out that I published the video below on YouTube on August 25th.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlLYD4CSJLU and if you watch his video, it is what else that was posted, from gadgetmall;Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2012, 11:07:26 PM » Love it Bill . It's nice to see you and other friendlies doing some more research on stuff  and Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2012, 07:15:16 PM » Thanks Bill!

Here's the "extended version" with the pingpong ball chamber. It's a spacer, really, from the ideas given by Conradelektro and the wiki pages, and my own realisation that the fountain depends on the difference in levels between source and receiver reservoirs. The easiest way for me to add a spacer was just to put another jar in the stack, and have it function as an extended air conduit. The pingpong balls are there to reduce the active air volume in the extra vent space, so that it's not as "springy". The external plumbing of this version might make the operation clearer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3UGTyc36f4

I think I'll put another spacer in the stack, just to see how high it will actually pump. end quote.  nothing in common with what I designed. If you look at tinselfkoal's design, it is what Bill posted using 2 chambers. What I posted uses only one. A very significant difference. and again what tinselfkoala said about my design; Re: Modified Heron's Fountain« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 03:08:22 PM » You just wait. Someday, when I can get out of bed, I'll build the world's best perpetual motion machine, using a 2000 year old design,end quote. In tinselfkoala's own words he did not think it was possible. Yet Bill says such statements verify his friend's claims that I stole their idea. And to repeat about Bill saying he is not tinselfkoala's friend, am quoting gadgetmall; Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2012, 11:07:26 PM »Love it Bill . It's nice to see you and other friendlies doing some more research on stuff

Captain Oblivious: (Jim)

This is quoted from my Youtube info on my Heron's Fountain video: (copied and pasted from the video info)

"This is my version of Heron's Fountain.  I got the schematic from Make.  It is easy to build and cost me nothing.  I used things sitting around my house.  The incredible part of this device is that the water rises up and pumps much higher than it starts out.  This is NOT perpetual motion but it IS a very interesting invention.  Thanks to TK over at OU dot com for his inspiration and advice.
Here is the link that got me started:http://blog.makezine.com/2008/06/08/build-herons-fountain-1/"

This is the link to that video that anyone can see what I am saying is true, which is also the link I placed in my 7th post in my topic which can be seen here:

http://www.overunity.com/12640/herons-fountain/30/#.UHj4ia5wyKI

And, here is the link to that video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maFjn3pSdoo

So, once again, anyone that reads these links and checks the dates can clearly see that you are lying once again.  You lie Jim.  This means, you do not tell the truth.  Why would you lie about something that is so easy for folks to check out?  I mean, that is like the definition of stupid.  So, while you are calculating cubic inches of surface area that no other engineer on the planet would ever do, (which you later denied posting but, hey, the posts are there for all to see....duh!) you should think about trying to be a better liar.  Don't lie about things that are so easily checked out to be lies.

Stop claiming other folk's work as your own and stop lying. Learn English and please learn how to type.  Also, please read at least one book on Engineering, don't just look at the pictures.

Bill

[TinselKoala]

What the hell is Jimpbo on about now? Can he not read? Oh....that's right, he has actually accused me of somehow changing the dates on my YT videos!! The guy must be completely crazy paranoid or something.

Here's my FIRST video showing a Heron's Fountain, that I made from the Make reference that Bill cited:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUlBqLM6Naw
Uploaded to YouTube on August 21.

Here's my SECOND video showing a Heron's Fountain. Uploaded to YouTube on August 21.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ3JMcFHwp4

Here's my THIRD video showing a Heron's Fountain. Uploaded to YouTube on August 21.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khZtoyjF4aA

Here's my FOURTH video showing a Heron's Fountain. Uploaded to YouTube on August 21.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2M05d8J8fU

Here's my FIFTH video showing a Heron's Fountain. Uploaded to YouTube on August 21.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8OVSPVKLBI

And I posted several more videos in the WEEK BEFORE August 29 which was when Bill started his FIRST Heron's Fountain thread. And the first mention by crazy johnny of anything concerning a Heron's Fountain was in Bill's thread on August 29, more than a full WEEK after I had been posting my videos of Heron's Fountain. And he later, ON AUGUST 31,  posts drawings that show the same nested reservoirs THAT I USED IN MY VIDEOS THAT WERE POSTED ON  AUGUST 22 and AUGUST 23. So..... I suppose anyone but Jimpbo can do the math on that one.... he posted his drawings a FULL WEEK after my modified system was published on YouTube for everyone -- including him -- to see.

In plain words, the "work" that Johnny accuses me of "stealing" wasn't posted or discussed BY HIM until a week or ten days AFTER I posted my videos on YouTube. So I think he's got his accusations backwards. He might have seen my videos and gotten his ideas, such as they are, from studying my videos. But there is NO WAY that anything I've done could have been taken from him.... because I did my stuff more than a week before he even mentioned it.

Jimpbo for some reason desires to continue his libel of me and refuses to retract his lies and accusations, and instead of "developing idea's" the ignorant fool whines and complains, says "goodbye" over and over but never leaves, and can't do any of his perpetual motion machines because his back hurts and he doesn't have a shop to work in. So he wants to continue this flame war by continuing to lie about me and my work, about Bill and his work, and apparently about several other people too. Why is this ignorant fool tolerated here?