Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

[Grumage]

Hi all, I'm a guy who has just broken free of the moderators control so to speak, what an ordeal joining to get a voice.!

What's all this Rick Fried stuff about ? should we be trying to forget his totally unconventional humiliating ways?
So we might ask where do we go from here, now we can write on the cave wall but there is no one to read it 

Regards Raymondo 

Hi AlienRay.   

The " riot " seems to be settling down now, perhaps it's time for the Asylum director to ask Nurse Ratched to unlock the isolation wing?

It remains to be seen whether our inmates will rejoin us in the entertainment lounge, they may have already escaped!

Back to business??

Cheers Grum.

Oh dear!

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3691.msg76772#msg76772

[ramset]

 GRUM
This has happened before and it might happen again ?
Persons attacking the replicators here  even attacking Stephen at times !!
And insinuating hidden agendas because persons who knew how to do the experiments and had  much experience could not see what the  Claimant  was seeing or claiming.
Without ever showing any real proof or working people through it to help?


Similar persons with similar claims have happened here for years and years at times
Persons who drop crumbs and hold secrets with soo many lives on the line

  I do not envy Stephen for one second
he has tried to keep this forum going for a long time
he doesn't write secret books ..I don't think he's ever written a secret book ...that would be in total conflict with his mission statement here
Open source will change the world ...selling secret books since 1984 and beyond ?
Well ..we see that track record .


For me I hold no allegiance to any forum my allegiance is to the person of like mind
I find them everywhere in all different forums ...out of forums .,,in all walks of life
From all countries beliefs religions or not religious at all
Makes no difference to me whatsoever even politics no place  in this work


We should be autonomous of all of that ...and not be distracted from our purpose


Any person who will carry water for this  Open source free energy cause is our friend I care not for their past or personal beliefs ...and Things unrelated to this cause.


And Stephen carries lots of water  and has for a very long time at his own cost of time and finance
And what happened here I believe was Driven more by finding the truth from a man claiming such grand things
And maybe perhaps a desperate attempt to cut to the chase before the man making the claims walked off .
I love this place and all the people who toil here ..same thing at the other venues ...let us  come to a good resolution and not divide
there's too much at stake.


And there is no way Stephen can do this alone
Just one man's opinion
Respect fully
Chet K
Ps
there is plenty to do here that needs doing  some very exciting experiments in the works
And the better we get at this working together with experienced people that recognize errors and also with 100% transparency so no man can yell "that's wrong "without proof
The sooner we get "that " kind of forum here
the faster we will get to our goal and Stephan's mission statement





Edit
Hi See Grum's post below
Thank you

[Grumage]

Hi Chet.

I totally agree with your Post Script.

Time to release our friends in  the " solitary confinement  " wing!!   

Cheers Graham.

[Void]

And insinuating hidden agendas because persons who knew how to do the experiments and had  much experience could not see what the  Claimant  was seeing or claiming.
Without ever showing any real proof or working people through it to help?
...
And the better we get at this working together with experienced people that recognize errors and also with 100% transparency so no man can yell "that's wrong "without proof

Hi Ramset. I know that people who have little understanding of electronics and physics can be easily fooled
by the many unsupported claims being made out there, but often times here when people who do have formal
training or otherwise a reasonably good understanding of electronics and physics point out that some claim is either quite
suspect or clearly not supported by what has been shown, people who have little understanding of such things and therefore no
real idea of what they are talking about start going on claiming that anyone who has expressed doubts based on
sound understanding and experience are trying to 'cover up over unity', or they are 'just too blind to see the truth', etc.
Don't you think it is more than a little absurd that many people who have no real understanding about what they are talking
about are often telling people here who do understand what they are talking about that they are wrong or just trying to block
over unity devices, etc.?

Please understand there is a quite a difference between someone speaking from real knowledge and experience and saying that a
specific claim being made is suspect or not supported by what has been shown, or pointing out specifically where someone is making an error,
and someone who just makes blanket dismissals of all OU claims. People should be clear about this distinction. Someone
with actual knowledge and experience pointing out that certain specific claims are suspect or not supported by what is shown
is not a blanket dismissal. It is just pointing out that the claim could well be incorrect, but not necessarily so. Just that what has been
shown either has obvious errors or potential errors or otherwise is lacking in regards to the claim being made (or implied), so those things
would have to be properly addressed before any reasonable evaluation can be made.

RF's implied performance claims were just not reasonably supported by what was actually shown.
Guessing at output power and suggesting or implying it is OU when what is shown actually appears to
quite possibly be within a normal operating performance range (i.e., non OU), is obviously a suspect claim.
People who have some real understanding of such things are justified in pointing out such obvious lacking or
suspect claims. Now, if a person making such a claim shows that they are reasonable and makes reasonable attempts
to address any problems pointed out with their claim or assumptions, and they can then show that something
unusual does appear to be going on, then great. Let's investigate further and see what is going on! However, if the
person making the claim responds with excuses and insults and a lot of other nonsense, then chances are that person
either has serious issues or they have other motivations and are not really interested in trying to get to the truth of the matter.

Hope that people can understand the distinction and can understand the value of having people around with
real knowledge and experience of what they are talking about providing feedback on claims or assumptions
that are being made. Without that, this forum will become just another energetic forum where unfounded claims are
often taken as gospel by many, and anyone who expresses doubts, no matter how reasonable those doubts may be,
are attacked or banned.


All the best...

[ramset]

Your points need to be put into some additional part of the mission statement as short and succinct as plausible

The vast resource of teaching videos here and elsewhere ?should be linked to for examples of errors to look for.
if a person has additional protocols beyond the scope of "example videos"
they should get to the front of some line for discussion Or attention
a lot of work !!!been talking to a few members about their teaching Vids and how to proceed?
all needs to be 100%transparent for eliminating Bogus "your hiding it"claims
Brutal honesty [or the scientific method] needs to rule the process
IMO
such a system would make everyone's life much easier and get true anomalies to the builders / members quicker.