Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oW3wCElMOw


Wesley

[Khwartz]

  The devices we have seen up to now are not a "done deal". Nor ready to be proven by their builder, as yet. What we have been shown so far, is so that we can also improve on  them, if interested, even though they are not yet in a finished state.

   I am very interested, in having a self runner in my hands, and will do all I possibly can towards that end. If I achieve some positive results, I will for sure provide at least a video, or as much proof as possible. Those that know me, also may know that I'm a serious person, not into faking, or such things for my own gain, fame, or profit.
Although, I see nothing wrong with making a profit, on a truly revolutionary and much needed device, once fully developed.

  You are encouraged to make the mentioned tests on your working device, even if it's not showing OU, yet. And to show us all how well it works, or doesn't work.
I have nothing against such tests, on the contrary.
As You want proof, well, perhaps you need to show proof first. And, IF you show that it can provide some kind of valid results on test devices, that may inspire more of us to follow suit. I encourage you to do so...  we are all on the same side, even though it may not seam like it at times. 
Rigor, is one thing, but demands and insistance, on still undeveloped devices are another thing.

Hi NickZ.

I am happy to read this, looks to, me very constructive note.

Again, I am sure of your own sincerity and all you did, especially you aptitude to integrate, to care of the advises and suggestions made by others here, is a very proof of, and look at my posts you will see I have acknowledge already you for your very positive efforts.

For Geo, he has INDEED claimed for overunity and selfrunning; just very "strangly" and mostly illogically enough, he provided vids about all but not these two claims! So, sorry, if I have faith on your honesty BASED on my direct observation of what you have done here and how you did it, NickZ, I am far to have the same confidence in Geo while he exactly disapeared at the exact moment he was supposed to show  the evidences by applying the outpower checking procedures we were demanding at this same exact time.

But I do follow you about helping someone even if his/her device is not yet claimed of having achieving anything; but again: it was not the  case of Geo...

[Khwartz]

Again ,this discussion is pointless. In the perfect world we would have a joyfull,happy inventor sharing all the details and his theories freely and openly to all other persons online. We would have no single slight shadow of doubt to his integrity and reality of inventions. However this perfect world couldn't be based on money and profit expectations. As soon as we are here we must take into account the possibility of fake devices and untrutful "inventors" , but the amount of accusation here is too great. Most people do not spent time, money  and risk of unrevealing the secret of complex device just to fool others, especially when they try to remain anonymous..

Forest, I was very enthousiastic when Geo gave his first claims. Asking for rigor about claims has nothing to do with an intent of discouragemnt. But if the person disapears or refuses to apply absolute simple and cheap procedures, such would just an indentical light load on grid aside of the loaded under device bulb; there are good reasons in my view, to start to question the integrity of the experimenter.

Of course, if we were asking for very expensive process of measuremnts, I would understand. BUT we have found here at least 3 very cheap ways to increase the rigor of the outpower checking, so for me NO excuse to not do so! And again I AM READY TO PAY WITH MY OWN MONEY the power analyser O/I power Verpies has proposed, for few who would make the effort to apply the 2 first procedures:

1. light bulb comparison with grid feed, then if interesting results:

2. 2 dry dark insulate boxes with checking off gradient speed of temperature with in each a indentical pure linear heating resistor inside.

Would you you still say that I am not here about to help!?

[Khwartz]

Ya Holidays... distraction from work... it's inconvenient enough that stores are only open during the day


3D?  Yes, each point is the result of whether the point starting at 0+0i + acceleration converges or diverges... and the colors are the level at which you detect that divergance.


I know there's other places to discuss things; but it applied to the topic here; and there; and should replicate posts, since those who are here aren't there... Here's a snapshot


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x6iBI8nxG0

Lol, thanks for sharing d3x0r

[Khwartz]

  What is pointless to some, may not be pointless to those involved in these discussions.

  I personally would much rather be dealing and discussing what works, than with what may be fakes, or not working 100% yet. However, what is working 100%? And how do we know that something is not faked. And can we know just how to deal with what we don't know about, or can't measure yet, or figure out why it even works at all? Especially if even the invertor(s) doesn't know why something works as they are showing.
  The point is, we may have to go through with some of these type of things, until we don't, even if we lose some people along the way.  If someone is honest and caring about showing an anomolous device, they will continue on, or they won't. 
  Maybe it's time to do our homework,  not expecting to be spoon fed.

Probably true, NickZ, especially about the sincere ones will persever.

About to know and not to know if working 100 % or not, while the checking procedure are cheap and easy to do, there for me no more excuse to not use them, and using them will help us to know if something here is really achieved, or at least in which direction we go, and the experimenter too!