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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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NickZ

  Void:
  So, you can imagine how hard it would normally be to power up 2000w,  even if using a higher powered Kacher circuit, with an input of 100w, or so. 
  You can also see for yourself how inefficient the Kacher circuit is for lighting up incandescent bulbs. 33%, or so?
  However, that video is NOT showing a high powered Kacher, but a very simple one instead.  So... what's up with that?
 
  And, there's NO magnetic current circuit, PLL, PWM, or clamp circuit, to have to mix the HV with. So, it has to be much more than just a simple Kacher circuit. 
  Worth pursuing... if it's for real.

   This is all my Kacher can light while running on 24v from my PS, at the 168t coil, when not connected to the yoke.
   Notice that one end of the bulb's wire is NOT going anywhere, other than just the grounding effect of my hand on the bulb.
Even when not touching any metal on the bulb(s).  Could that be the capacitor "effect"?  Or not?
    Picture below.

Void

Hi Nick. The videos where the guy is supposedly getting a few kW's out while only using
a kacher circuit with a 12V battery would certainly seem to be no easy result to achieve. :)
That doesn't mean it is necessarily fake, and I suppose it is no more unlikely than what Kapanadze or
Akula has shown. At this point, we just don't know what the rules would be for OU to occur.
It probably wouldn't be any worse trying to replicate that kind of setup than it is to try to replicate
based on things Ruslan has shown and said. :) There may be a few more unknowns with that setup
than the Akula/Ruslan circuits however.

Yes, if you can light a bulb somewhat when holding the bulb glass in your hand while one side
of the bulb is not connected, then it seems you must be providing some sort of current path to the bulb capacitively.
The guy who made the shovel video showed in another video that he could partially light a small incandescent bulb
by holding the glass in his hand and only connecting the center connector on the bulb to the end of a tesla coil.
When he tried to touch the screw connector on the bulb with his hand, the bulb wouldn't light in that case.
This is the video:
http://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3MWZcYwMLYoMUEzSUR5cFdzanM/view?pref=2&pli=1

Jeg

Quote from: verpies on March 16, 2016, 07:10:07 AM
As you can see the layout matter a lot.

The waveform might be satisfactory to you now, but it still is not to me.
Do you have the MOSFET drivers glued to the MOSFETs yet ?

Please post a scopeshot of the power supply rails at the MOSFET driver's supply pins, while your scope channel is set to an AC coupling mode.  ...below 1V/div vertical scale.

Hi Verpies.
I already made this specific board with an IR2110 driver which I can not move. But next board will be with two separate drivers connected right on the mosfets pins as Itsu's ones.

I took the shot that you asked over pin3 of IR2110. I have a ceramic cap over there of 100nF. In addition, after regulator I have connected a 4 Ohm resistance in series and then a 33uF electrolytic in parallel as a low pass filter. As it is in Akula's push pull circuit.

Dog-One

Quote from: Void on March 16, 2016, 11:32:37 AM
Yes, if you can light a bulb somewhat when holding the bulb glass in your hand while one side
of the bulb is not connected, then it seems you must be providing some sort of current path to the bulb capacitively.

And there lies the missing piece of information.  We do not fully understand or appreciate the capacitive
element of the Ruslan, Sergey, Akula, Dally, etc  circuits.  Maybe the type of insulation on the wire
is important, or how tightly/loosely the coils are wrapped.

I highly recommend (unless you already have a self runner), replicating what Woopy demonstrates here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94yCfy8z4lc

Then replace the split rolled copper with various coils arrangements.  It is fairly easy to do and will
provide a means to better understand the capacitive side of these devices.  Take measurements;
look at the waveforms, but be careful not to blow up your scopes.  You might even discover a way
to significantly increase output beyond what the rolled copper plate produces.  That would be a
huge step in the right direction.  Try different things, bucking coils, mini grenade coils, heavy
insulated and straight magnet wire.

You may also want to determine the running frequency of the Kacher driver and replace it with
a signal generator to see what effect the changing capacitance has.

I'm pretty convinced as I mentioned recently what these devices must be doing, but I'm a long
way away from understanding how it does what it does.  Experimenting may be the only means
to shore-in this understanding.

Void

Quote from: Dog-One on March 16, 2016, 02:04:46 PM
I highly recommend (unless you already have a self runner), replicating what Woopy demonstrates here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94yCfy8z4lc

Hi Dog-one. Thanks. I had already seen that video a couple of years ago or so.
I don't think what Woopy is showing there is really any much different than what I
was doing in my recent tests, except Woopy's kacher arrangement was drawing a
fair bit more input power. I think it is the same types of effects at a bit higher power
consumption level. I therefore doubt there is any OU there. Even though adding a bulb
to draw off some of the power may not increase the kacher circuit input current substantially,
I think the bulb is also drawing some of the power from the kacher/tesla coil that is normally just wasted,
so just the increase in current draw when the bulb is connected is probably misleading. I am basing
that on lots of tests I have done in the past.

Quote from: Dog-One on March 16, 2016, 02:04:46 PM
I'm pretty convinced as I mentioned recently what these devices must be doing, but I'm a long
way away from understanding how it does what it does.  Experimenting may be the only means
to shore-in this understanding.

I have a few ideas about it as well, but I would say lots and lots of experimenting is probably the only
real means of ever getting to some real understanding (if we assume at least some of these various OU devices
are not fakes). Thinking about the theoretical side too much may just end up leading a person further
and further down into the cabbage patch. :D

P.S. What interested me about the light bulb/shovel video was not that he was lighting the bulb on the
shovel blade, but that he was lighting the bulb quite brightly while apparently only drawing less than a couple
of Watts from his power supply. I could have mistook what the power draw was on the power supply,
but I think he also said in Russian that it was one hundred and fifty milliamps at eleven volts. Since I don't
speak Russian, I could have got that wrong however. :)