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Overunity Machines Forum



CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel

Started by helloha, September 20, 2012, 09:55:52 PM

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helloha

Analysing of Bessler's Clues 38.
< Shape of Rolling Weight, cylindrical vs Sphere >

- comparing the shape of the rolling weight between cylindrical vs sphere

- pros of Cylinder
1. mass increased, the length increased, but diameter can still remain the same

- cons of Cylinder
1. a wider surface contact affecting the rolling motion
2. unstable rolling, may slide sideway

- pros of Sphere
1. smooth rolling capability due to little surface contact

- cons of Sphere
1. mass increased, the diameter of sphere also increased

helloha

Analysing of Bessler's Clues 39.
< A Look at the Pulley >

"Furthermore, the machine may be of little value to the public unless it can be improved. At the moment it can lift a weight of sixty pounds, but to achieve this the pulley had to be reduced more than four times, making the lifting quite slow." - eyewitness clue

situation 1

- 'lifting quite slow' might indicate that the wheel need to pull more rope length, which in turn, slow down the lifting of the load,

- which also indicate there might have more pulleys involved

- 'pulley reduced more than four times' .... was it a reverse meaning, instead of reduced, it is the addition of more pulleys ? .... or it was not refering to the pulley at all ?

situation 2

- for light load, the wheel can easily lift the load up, while the rpm of wheel only reduce a little, so lifting is still fast

- but for heavy load, it will cause rpm of wheel to reduce more (with minimum use of pulleys), thus lifting will become slow

- so this can also explain the 'lifting quite slow', but if this is the case, then the 26rpm would have reduced to, not 20, but lesser... maybe 5-10rpm (guessing... 20rpm could/might still be considered quite fast when lifting the load up ?)

- but why 'pulley reduced more than four times' ? Is there alot of pulleys used in the first place ?

Take note:
"the machine may be of little value to the public unless it can be improved"
..... .... ....
the wheel is weak (but don't see it as a bad thing, .... on the contrary, it simply means there are alot of rooms to explore, ... and more topics to write ^o^ hooray!)

helloha

a-XXX XXX XI. trying my hands on wm2d, design variations of Swing/Roll interaction v1

helloha

Analysing of Bessler's Clues 40.
< The Cursed of the Number 8 >

"Design of my machine is analogues to world system. I have put eight heavy weights in my machine, which represents eight planets of our world. The large axle of my machine represents the sun. Heavy weights in my machine encircle around the axle to form an elliptical path, in the similar manner, as planets encircle around the sun. Whilst moving around axle, they recede and come closer to the center. They balance against each other and impart motion to the wheel. ?"

- the emphasize on the eight heavy weights ..... ..... .....

- ABSOLUTELY ... NO ... IDEA

- ...denial...denial...denial...didn't see...didn't hear...denial...what eight weights...didn't see before...eight weights...never heard of it...denial...complete denial...what eight...don't know... .... LOL :-) ^o^

- OK now back to the topic... no idea about the eight heavy weights, it basically defied most (or all) of the analysing of the other clues

- although more interested in the "elliptical path", which will post a topic on it

- IMO the binding of eight weights, eight planets is more of a way (a description) that Bessler used, to impress the eyewitness, kind of like a saleman trying to promote his product (focus on the good, amplify the good, divert the bad, hide the bad)

- the bidirectional wheel is also another way to impress the eyewitness, no much of any practical uses, and all these impressive display/description that Bessler had employed, seemed to have the purpose of either

1. diverting the attention of the eyewitness away from the weakness of the wheel... output of the wheel is weak... (one eyewitness had stated that), or

2. average out the weakness of the wheel, by compensating with impressive other display/description stuffs, or

3. simply the ego to impress, or

4. it does, and 'only', have 8 heavy weights ( mmm .... .... .... denial.... denial...denial...didn't see... ...denial...what eight weights...didn't see before...eight weights...never heard of it...denial...complete denial...what eight...don't know... ... ... LOL)


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helloha

Analysing of Bessler's Clues 41.
< Karl's Peg blocking vs Bessler's Child stepping >

- this topic is a continuum from related topic

1. "Count Karl's Explanation......... it's the other way round"
http://www.overunity.com/12742/cg-showcase-of-overbalanced-wheel/msg408218/#msg408218

2. "The "Leg" of the Child"
http://www.overunity.com/12742/cg-showcase-of-overbalanced-wheel/msg408127/#msg408127

"Count Karl explained that small pegs, which swung back out of the way as the weight passed the zenith, blocked these weights." - fictitious clue

"each child can swing (or you might call it "step" as it uses a club as a "leg") from the top of one broken column to the top of the next broken column by positioning his heavy club on the ground between the two close columns and holding on to the handle end to swing over to the top of the next column." - Bessler clue

- refer to image for speculation on the perspective view of Karl and Bessler