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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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hanon

Quote from: Fernandez on September 06, 2014, 01:16:48 AM
Attached is one of our preliminary circuits we devised. Its actually based on the study of Joseph Henry. We figured that Figuera lived in the era of Faraday and Henry. So logic would dictate that the answer would be found in one of there works.

This is a simple circuit that's EZ to build. Do what you want we are just presenting a starting point. Because we ALL know that STARTING is the hardest part. To understand the circuit (some of you will already know whats going on here) research the works of Joseph Henry. Add to the circuit as you wish. The goal is to reduce the input  current to achieve the greatest magnetic force possible (just as Henry did, its all documented over 100 years ago).

Criticize all you want, clearly theirs something we all all overlooked because its been over 100 years since Figuera. For starting, try winding 1:1 ratio's on the transformers (air core). The output transformer requires Iron. I have already disclosed a cheap usable source, do not waste your money on high end iron its simply retarded.


We believe the Georgian fellow uses the same technique as Figuera. We also believe that Henry stumbled  upon an interesting magnetic effect. However Faraday published his works first and Henrys work got buried by history thus falling by the waste side.

A starting circuit:

Fernandez,

Thanks for taking the time to put into here your insights. I see that you have also opened a thread to suggest reading Joseph Henry writtings and his discovery of two types of dynamic induction, one of them different to Faraday´s discoveries. It has been always my belief that current electromagnetic theory is incomplete. Maybe the other type of induction is related to the longitudinal waves found by Tesla, waves that are not included into the current Maxwell equations. Also Weber, using Ampere experimental results, published a EM theory which was not in agreement with Maxwell theory.  http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2007/sci_techs/3415weber.html

I see your good willing to share your findings. I really appreaciate it. Thanks!!

Also It is my belief that the concept used by Figuera in 1902 patent are different from those used in 1908 patent. As he sold his 1902 patent to a Banker Union perhaps he was forced to research for new concepts in order to get a new machine into the market without breaking the contract with the bankers.

bajac

See attached PDF file showing the serpentine coil design. It is easier to construct than the individual coils. You just have to hammer a few nails on a board to have the wire former.

NRamaswami

Quote from: Doug1 on September 06, 2014, 10:44:35 AM
Fernandez
  Your pdf is a simplified version of patent 3815030 Square wave driven power amplifier Dated June 1874 owned by Westinghouse Electric company.
  Without the details of how to feed the output back into the inducers with the advantage of gain or leverage to increase the output while using less current and not burning up the inducers when loads are varied there is little chance of getting any design to self run. Even the patent mentioned does not go into or even mention the ability to do so in detail or concept. Only figurea gives mention to it being equal and suppressing the source which could then be removed. If that was known then it alone could dictate how to hack any device to operate off it self.

Doug this is all very true. I accidentally stumbled on what is this Al Origin given by Figuera. If you recollect the Hubbard demonstration in 1919 He ran a boat for several hours using a self powered generator. Figuera has indicated that after the initial current is given then the current is taken from the source and initial current is removed. What is this source?. That is the key to replicate his experiement.

The source is Water or Earth points which are fully wet and kept wet. If a part of the secondary (really tertiary as there is a shunted coil between the primary and secondary to ensure that the phase of current is similar between the input and output) is given to two earth connections which are fully wet and the primary is also connected to it properly then the need is to give an initial current only. 

If there is a difference of potential artifically created or difference of voltages given between two earth points placed North and South then the points are in a position to take telluric currents. The output in that case will be higher than the input. If the earth points are very wet the primary can be also set to receive the current from the earth points.

The primary feedback input can be controlled by fuse and Metal Oxide Varistor and another fuse all in series for the feedback Unit. This can avoid the burn out problems of the device but the fuses can go out and need to be replaced.

Rest of the Figuera device is self explanatory. You can use both N-N-N and N-S-N type of connections. When using N-N -N connections the central N is simply an iron core. A torroid or square coil is wound on it in the shape of CW-CCW-CW-CCW to get the output. But the important condition is that this  toroid must be facing the magnetic field from the Primary magnets that surround it. Or in other words the primary magnet diameter must be much larger than the secondary magnets and the field from the primary should envelope the secondary.

It is very dangerous to test this at high voltage as the amperage can be very high.  You can try to build the Bob Beck Device for Blood Electrification device which produces 27 volts pulsed dc and keep the electrodes on the hand as Bob Beck advises. You would feel some itching of the skin depending on the type of your skin. But if you place the electrodes in two different water containers well insulated from the earth, the electrodes are separated and human body is the common electrode between the two water containers and you will soon start feeling the amperage increasing and raising from the water and raising through your hand and you will throw away the electrodes voluntarily. The source of free electrons is Water or watered earth connection or points between watered Earth or an Earth point and atmospheric Antenna or a water body. Too many patents there for this. One classic example is the German Patent of where the inventor produced 100 Kilowatts by floating balloons and connecting the wires to earth points. It was not followed due to lightening problems. But the Tesla patent is also there which shows many capacitors beting connected in series and the wires being connected to earth points. This is why every one claimed any amount of electricity can be produced any where in the world but did not disclose the secret.

You can try the experiment. I have fully reconstructed the Hubbard coil ( The construction details are wrongly given and there is a torroid coil in between the outer 8 small coils and inner large coils and the torroid is wound in top to bottom in CW-CCW-CW-CCW) and if we try to connect to the toroid to the primary as feedback there is a high possibility of the wire burning out as you say or the fuze burning out if we use the safety system I indicated above. Amperage build up is enormous and is dependent on Voltage present and wire thickness. If you use the above method even at lower voltage higher amperages would result. This is why Hubbard had 124 volt and 334 Amps coming out of his device.

The alternate safe method is to keep giving power from a battery and Inverter or UPS system and then to power the batteries back from the earth points by making the current output DC through suitable means.

It is as simple as that. I did the experiment with the Beck device as indicated above and seen for myself the result and then asked three other people to test it and all confirmed by promptly thowring out the electrodes as amperge increased. Beck output is 100 microampers ( Microamps is 1 millionth of an ampere). Any one can easily see that amps increase in this method dramatically. If you were to do this test, Do not try to be a Hero and throw out the electrodes for at 2 amps current an heart attack will happen.  I'm not suggesting nor asking you to do this experiment on Beck Device or any other device and if you do it you are doing it on your own fuly aware of the risks involved.

Never ever try to do it at high voltage and any one trying it at high voltage will be instanlly zapped to coal. Amperes here come from Telluric currents and can increase from 100 Amps to 1000 Amps easily. Earlier Atmospheric electricity experiments were based on getting a voltage difference using the difference in height and getting amps from telluric currents. This is why others were claiming we are living in a sea of Energy.

I'm not interested in any patent which will not be granted any way. An ordinary High voltage transformer subject to Lenz law will also work in the same way. ( Provided the primary and secondary wires are of the same gauge or the secondary wire is sufficiently thick to handle large amperages that would come) Figuera was kind of misleading by directing the attention to avoiding Lenz law effects which is true in N-S-N combinations as found out by us but he avoided the Al Origin secret from being disclosed to save his rights.

So this all remains a puzzle to this date. I hope I have cleared the mist.  But I'm not an Electrical Engineer and so I'm not carrying this forward. In any case none of the devices which use this are patentable. They do not violate the law of conservation of energy as the system is not a closed system. However even if we build a system and test it no Government would allow it and they would make it illegal by legislation. No point in trying to get it to Electic Cars when both US and Russia the world major powers are dependent on Oil and the powerful people control these companies.

So we will continue to be dependent on the Grid only. Nothing more and Nothing Less.

I'm not able to figure out how the cold electricity thing works. I have not experimented on that and it probably is based on radioactivity or uses the cosmic rays. My knowledge is zero there.

hanon

Hi all,

I have found another overunity device which also uses like poles facing each other. It is the Floyd´s Sweet VTA. It is very interesting that Floys Sweet also used TWO SIDE INDUCTOR and some intermediate collecting coils. The center coils were placed perpendicularily, but, apart from this, there are many similarities with the Figuera generator. Just see this video, where a relation between the VTA and the Kromrey converter is established because both systems runs with like poles facing each other:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiQClPZZYDc#t=01m44s

Regards

Doug1

I think there is only one method regardless of the device and a lot of ways to conceal the concept in order to claim it is different. No one inventor is willing to spill the beans because it will become obvious they all work from the same basic method.
  An endless list of devices and an endless amount of effort to make different looking devices with different smoke and mirrors to explain the way it works without explaining anything of importance.