Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[hanon]

Hanon,
The rotary switch shown by Figuera in the 1908 patent is correct when using only a contact. The patent that Buforn submitted requires two contact in opposite directions (at 180 degrees.) Otherwise, a single contact needs to rotates 180 degrees before making connection with the resistors and it will make it difficult to have a make-before-break configuration. I do not trust Buforn's work!
Bajac

Hi,
Can you elaborate why in Buforn's patents two contacts are required?

From the documents I have collected in 1907, one year before Figuera's death, Buforn and Figuera were already associated. After Figuera's death the 1908 patent was owned by Buforn. Later he filed 5 patents, which are identical between them, and almost a carbon copy of the 1908 patent (as it can be seen comparing their identical figures.., the resistor, the conmutator, the electromagnets names...all the same. Thus is why I think that we can find some missing details into Buforn's patent and their sketches.

[bajac]

Hanon,


Why do you think that the puzzle has not been solved? This is probably the simplest of all FE devices that I have ever seen. I thought that I had clearly explained the basis of operation for this device. In my opinion the only task left is to build the apparatus.


I have seen persons complaining that the device did not work but when they posted the photos, their setup is not what Figuera taught. They just made short cuts that are not recommended. I keep repeating myself, JUST REPLICATE THE DEVICE AS SHOWN IN THE PATENTS!!! Plain and simple.


Why are we still wasting time with something like looking for the meaning of "N" and "S"? Stop this analysis paralysis until the device has been really replicated.


If the device does not work after its replication, then we can go into the troubleshooting mode. I am kind of disappointed that no one has replicated this simple device (including myself).

[iflewmyown]

Bajac,  You yourself have in no way replicated the 1908 patent and yet you keep talking. The 1908 patent was for a 20 hp generator and used a mechanical rotating commutator. Your own pictures do not show a rotating commutator or a device anywhere near 20 hp. I await your replication and some test results. The reason people still look for answers is that none of us have solved this puzzle, simple as it may be. 
Garry

[bajac]

Bajac,  You yourself have in no way replicated the 1908 patent and yet you keep talking. The 1908 patent was for a 20 hp generator and used a mechanical rotating commutator. Your own pictures do not show a rotating commutator or a device anywhere near 20 hp. I await your replication and some test results. The reason people still look for answers is that none of us have solved this puzzle, simple as it may be. 
Garry

Garry,


The important question is: what is the invention? Can you isolate Figuera's inventive concept from the implementation details? For instance, suppose that someone else build the generator using the same configuration of the Figuera's electromagnets as shown in the 1908 patent but instead of using a rotary switch, this person uses a stepper motor driver to generate the two 90 degrees shifted signals. Is this person infringing Figuera's patent if the 1908 claims include the rotary switch? Do you really believe that the rotary switch is part of the inventive concept? I will leave it up to you as a homework but I can give you a hint: refer to the oscilloscope's graphs published by Woopy using a rotary switch and the graphs that I published using an electronic circuit (Arduino controller) to generate the signals.


The above questions are for brainstorming, only. You do not need to reply because I will not waste more time on this issue.


It looks like you did not understand what I was referring to when I said "replicate Figuera's apparatus".


Bajac

PS: I am planning to take a long vacation away from the forum. However, there is more than enough information posted (for you guys) to build this wonderful apparatus.

[hanon]

Hi all,
We are in this forum to help us each other. Our aim is the same for all of us:to get a working device. Please take it always in mind. The rest is secondary. Do not start having a row for a different point of view.Bajac, we need your unvaluable help and expertise.

As for myself, as you know, I dont have deep knowledge of electricity, but my task here is to spread what it is written in the original spanish patents, to keep this forum alive and to show details to make you think about possibilities. Bajac, I trust your technical report, but I am just discussing some points which are not well defined as the orientation. I am just trying to help, it is good to have different options in case the first attemp fail. I hope to see you around here tomorow. , and I agree that we may skip the use of a rotary conmutator.

Regards