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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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ALVARO_CS

Rams:
In my opinion the rotary device (run with a small  DC motor) allowed a kind of swinging of the magnetic strength in the primary electromagnets to both sides of the induced coil.
Doing this with a variable DC (via resistors) the electromagnets magnetic fields never collapse (no backEMF, or CEMF) and the core never saturates (less eddy currents, less heat )

In another note, some of the participants in this thread (as myself) donĀ“t have the economic means to replicate your setup, so do not worry about any delay, we are lucky enough to be able to know that there are people like you that generously want to share their experiments and discoveries
Cheers
Alvaro

NRamaswami

Alvaro_CS:

I do not know if your statements about magnetic field collapsing as a necessary condition for Lenz law is accurate. For example if you use FW Diode bridge rectifier there is no collapsing of the waves and it remains full positive sign wave only. But at that time the saturation is attained very fast and eddy currents are actually higher and to avoid saturation we need four times more wire and more iron. That said I have not done the rotary device in combination with the resistors and tested the multiple primaries arrangement either. Therefore I'm not able to agree or disagree. The one thing that I have noticed is that this is a force of nature. It is present in nature. When a conductor is subjected to rotating magnetic field  or time varying magnetic field, electricity is induced in the conductor. This is the original Law of Electromagnetic induction. Later on when Lenz law was made it has been inferred as conversion of mechanical energy in to electrical energy as the machines were build in the wrong way. For example in the dynamo the central core rotates and the coils are placed outside to cut the magnetic flux. You can build a small solenoid and check whether placing the primary coil inside and secondary outside is more benefifical or secondary inside and primary outside is more beneficial. The magnetic field tends to focus on the center. Therefore the output coils should have been placed or arranged in the center to collect the magnetic waves but we have the situation in the reverse in the generators because it is easy to do so. If the magnetic core is placed outside and is made to rotate or we have had magnetic cores placed inside and outside and both rotated in the same direction at the same time we would not have had any Lenz law effect. This kind of arrangement is what is present in the Figuera coils without the rotation of the magnet but with the presence of the rotating magnetic field.

I agree with this part of your post..

"In my opinion the rotary device (run with a small  DC motor) allowed a kind of swinging of the magnetic strength in the primary electromagnets to both sides of the induced coil."

I'm extremely doubtful if this is correct.

"Doing this with a variable DC (via resistors) the electromagnets magnetic fields never collapse (no backEMF, or CEMF) and the core never saturates (less eddy currents, less heat )"

Variable DC is available through FW diode bridge. The iron immediately saturates. To avoid that you need four times the iron needed in AC and you need four times the wire needed in AC to maintain the electromagnet to operate continuously. Eddy currents are more with saturation. So I'm very doubtful on this part. It is possible that the resistor array was there to reduce the current and therefore caused the effects you indicated but I need to test before I can agree.

Let us assume the same variable DC. Contrary to Lenz law we have another Law Ohms Law by which V=IR.  Therefore if we create a step up transformer using thick wires and gets an increased voltage, resistance being lower for a higher voltage higher amperage should result. In the primary since the resistance is higher for a lower voltage lower amperage should result. Now which one of these laws or principles is correct?

These laws or designs of equipment are good only so long as the conditions specified for them are strictly followed. If we look at it carefully and then try to modify them and ignore the books and theories and do some simple experiments and make observations we get different results.

The purpose of sharing is very very simple. We did not bring any thing to the world and we are not going to take away any thing when we go. The only thing that we can give to the world is what we have learnt so knowledge can spread. Assuming for a moment that we are successful in this effort, then we find a situation or a solution where any one can make electricity at any place on earth in whatever quantities needed. Investment for that and effort for that would be needed of course. But that is a knowledge that can generate lot of employment to a lot of people and can lead to growth and prosperity and better living conditions for a lot of people at low cost. There is not going to be any patent for this kind of inventions now. So why not share what we have observed. We do not need to attempt to have to reinvent the same knowledge after 100 years..

RandyFL

Quote from: NRamaswami on July 18, 2015, 01:30:06 PM
Assuming for a moment that we are successful in this effort, then we find a situation or a solution where any one can make electricity at any place on earth in whatever quantities needed. Investment for that and effort for that would be needed of course. But that is a knowledge that can generate lot of employment to a lot of people and can lead to growth and prosperity and better living conditions for a lot of people at low cost. There is not going to be any patent for this kind of inventions now. So why not share what we have observed. We do not need to attempt to have to reinvent the same knowledge after 100 years..

Rams,
I am sure that these apparatuses have been figured out and are probably being used already... the same robber barons exist today as in the past...plus we ( America ) aren't a democratic republic anymore...the USA doesn't have allies anymore either...we have special interests...Even in the interview Prof. Figuera gave credit to God...today they don't believe in God or money is their god... I share because of the people who shared with me...plus I have a keen interest in learning things...

All the Best

ALVARO_CS

Quote from: NRamaswami on July 18, 2015, 01:30:06 PM

Variable DC is available through FW diode bridge. The iron immediately saturates.

What I mean as "variable DC" is a  voltage that goes up and down NOT changing its polarity. Never going bellow the 0 V.  (DC is not AC) no pulsed DC either.

If the DC current supply is from a battery, this effect is not available through FW diode bridge.

regards
Alvaro

Doug1