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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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hanon

QUOTE FROM BUFORN PATENT 57955 (year 1914)


"The way to collect this current is so easy that it almost seems excused to explain it,
because we will just have to interposed between each pair of electromagnets N and S,
which we call inducers, another electromagnet, which we call induced, properly placed
so that either both opposite sides of its core will be into hollows in the corresponding
inducers and in contact with their respective cores, or either, being close the induced
and inducer and in contact by their poles"






MagnaProp

Quote from: hanon on September 28, 2015, 05:07:33 PM
...both opposite sides of its core will be into hollows in the corresponding inducers..."
Good point. Might help to encase the coils in permeable metal also as Ed mentions?

antijon

Hey guys, call me a purist, but I think I'll stick with the patent and the way Figuera described it. In fact, I don't think the patent image is wrong or misleading at all... except for the way the induced coil is wired with those two little wires coming out. lol

@ marathonman, I know your coil setup imitates a rotating generator, particulary the Gramme ring, which we all know is the father of the "barrel winding" motor or generator... but I really don't think you'll have much success. I know hanon and I have both experimented with transverse or perpendicular windings with little output. You probably will get some output because of the North and South coil orientation, but not a free energy machine. Barrel windings literally cut the magnetic field lines, that's how the current is excited, so without moving the coil or magnet you're just relying on induction, which isn't very much in this case.

As for the Figuera generator, I'm going to say we simply don't understand what he made. It is a stationary, rotating generator. Or if the induced coil were mounted on bearings, it would be a motor... or at least a vibrator.

I'm eating my words now, because I said the poles would need to be the same polarity, but no, he was right, they are North and South, all 7 rows.

This guy, woopyjump, is the only person I know that actually made it according to the patent. https://youtu.be/HlOGEnKpO-w

in this video https://youtu.be/3QguCN8TP7o he shows a setup powered by only two transistors. Note: this would be identical to powering it with half-wave rectified AC, like with diodes. At the 4:30 mark, he shows how current INCREASES when he removes the induced circuit. He also states that current is "almost double" when the two inducer magnets are NOT connected.

These strange things plus the ghost voltage that he talks about all point to the same thing. Figuera made an induction motor. lol  :D

MagnaProp

I don't see how lenz has much of a chance to hurt this system. I think that getting out what you put in a transformer is the wrong way to go about using one or even trying to get out more than what you put in. If the secondary is small enough then you get less out of the secondary without hurting what you put into the primary. A smaller secondary can't possibly build up enough lenz to fight back equally. That doesn't begin to factor in other things like delayed lenz to have what little lenz there is help the system instead of hurt it.

Quote from: antijon on September 28, 2015, 07:44:24 PM
Hey guys, call me a purist, but I think I'll stick with the patent and the way Figuera described it...
I changed my mind on what I said in the Ed post but didn't want to leave the post blank so just kept the info there. I agree that staying as close to the patent as possible is the best way to start. Woopyjump had some of the best examples. He hasn't posted in a while. Anyone know what he is up to?