Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[NRamaswami]

Pedroxime..Sir..I'm grateful for your kind words.

Please see below the whole discussion between Forum Poster Hanon and me on this topic. This would also tell you why he did not mention any thing for 7 full months.

---Quote begin---

Mail from Hanon on 30/9/2015

Rams,

In your previous email you said "There is no radiation from the central coil to affect us and the computers and the cellphones kept in the same room were on when the tests were run and they had no problem. So there was no radiation. But do not disclose this in the forum. "

It is a pity that you are stating facts in the forum that are not true. I wonder if there are more details that are not true. I can see here some personal interests to misguide the other forum users. I won´t disclose anything in the forum as I have been doing till now with your info, but I think this is not fair. Right now I do not know what it is true and what it is not true. What I know is that if you are doing things like this it is because the device works. It has been better to stay quiet and not say anything than tell untrue things to discourage people

My Reply on the same date:

You are correct. But I am observung both the things and I am getting two opinions from different experts. I was warned because the primary coils are multifilar and they have wire running below them all types of frquencies are possible. Check Multiple wave oscillator which cured cancers with 98% success rate. The frequencies it emits are harmful but it cured cancer. The device is now banned though it cured cancer.

If any one tests and suffers I am liable. This is why I tell people do not test. My legs suffer from swelling like an elephants legs and If I take treatment it goes out after two or three weeks. No infection has bern detected till date. My driver has a blood clot in his head. So I have warned the forum.

But another professor says if computers and cell phones are not affected there is no issue. Now you tell me what I should do. I have stopped testing. But the professors are insisting that I continue. To be on the safe side I have stopped. Apart from this there are no funds.

If you see the forum I come under concerted attack like no one has been subjected to. If some one replicates and suffers claims I am responsible what do I do? What do yo do if you are in this situation.

I had been severely criticised by a forum member for not closing the magnetic gap and keeping the rods open. You look at your mail you have indicated the same.

What I feel as safe and any one can replicate alone has been reported. You have a lot more information than what I had given the forum. You create a step up transformer using small primary multifilar wires and thick secondary wires. Make the output voltage to reach 400 volts give the secondary wires to earth. See what you observe. The issue is the multifilar coils.
How they are wound decides every thing. They appear to broadcast high and low frequencies. I do not have equipment to determine frequencies. Cater says MWO output inimical frequencies only but when the patient sat in the middle he had beneficial results. Look at me. Computers and phones are ok Legs are swollen joints are weak and I am lookoing like an old man now.

What would be your prudent advice. Just because I have done a lot of things do I owe it to the forum to disclose every thing..

Patrick does not teach all he knows. Under the circumstances unless we measure frequencies clearly and conclude they are harmless I have to give the same advice I gave the forum


My mail dated 1/10/2015 not controverted by Hanon.

XXXX

I was not wrong.

I am given to understand 50 -55 Hz AC is harmful to humans and animals and this is why we are affected. If we want AC output we need to cover the device with several layers of plastic and iron sheets to reduce the 50 Hz radiation to the minimum. The iron sheets block the radiation coming out. This is why people living near high voltage power lines are affected. 55 Hz Pulsed DC is said to be beneficial to human body.

To the contrary 20 Khz to 40 Khz AC or pulsed DC  is dangerous to virus, bacteria, pathogens and worms in human body. This is the basis of the Hulda Clark and Royal Rife devices. Cancerous cells or tumours have a thick outer layer and to make them open you need to give either electricity of less than 10 Hz and 20 to40 Khz simultaneously or 20 to 40 Khz and 2 to 40 MHz simultantously. The cell walls are weakened then to allow the 20 to 40 Khz electricity to kill the microbes and the tumour cells return to normal cells. This is what is done by Royal Rife by using a Neon Lamp and Lakhovsky by using his coils.

This is why we were affected and the computers and cell phones were not affected. I was very strongly criticsed by a senior scientist for not closing the open iron rods at the two ends and not covering the entire device with iron sheet and plastic sheet.

-----

Figuera has not shown the closing of the iron and it is possible that he suffered from the experiments and died. However if it was Pulsed DC he would not have suffered and the death may be due to some disease. Any way during 1908 the average life span was not very high in islands and he has lived a full life span for his times. 

There are many people in the forum who are extremely knowledgeable. They do know who is reporting the truth and who is misleading or giving false info. However I do not intend to get in to this again for some more time. I'm looking like a frail old man now and I need to receover in health and finances and only then I can do any thing.
-----------------------------
-----Quote End---

Unfortunately at this time I'm not able to understand the Multifilar coils. You make 10 filar multifilar coils they consume less 2 to 2.5 amps when secondary single wire is loaded. You remove one or two coils of the 10 filar primary coil and make it 8 or 9 filar then the coil consumes 25 amps. When it does it COP>1 is automatic. Iron is totally saturated.

I have personally enormously suffered. I had to spend a lot of treatment and take a lot of rest. I do not have proper technical education in this field. I am also not able to understand many of these things. Some people want me to take risks. I'm not interested in doing any thing that can harm either me or others. So the reports that I give are self edited.

There are many forum posters who are highly qualified and extremely knowledgeable. One of them indicated that Don Smith devices worked but he employed 3 MHz frequencies in open air core. That core gave a lot of harmful radiations and so the device was not accepted for use.  Many have told me that Multiple Wave Oscillator is a device that is banned in Europe and US. It would interfere with radio communications. There is an international treaty that permits some frequencies and bans others. I do not have much of knowledge in this. what I do know is this..For some unknown reason severe edema was formed in my foot and they were swollen like an elephant leg. I became so weak. I had to take Siddha medicines to recover and then sleep for 10 hours a day to receover my health. This is one of the reasons I have restricted the testing to just once per month.

I'm increasingly getting the feeling that the translation of the patent is not correct. It happens all the time. No blame on Hanon but translating old technical documents is a challenging job and there is a significant possibility for mistakes.

Unfortunately I do not read spanish. So I have to accept what others say.

[Doug1]

Hannon

read try and play with what can be learned from this patent. just because something is new does not make it better. Better is a subjective term which does not imply to what end something is better. Is it better for commerce ,is it better in functionality, is it better in terms of longevity and so on. SS components work on the electrical only, they assume the waste of magnetic flux is exceptable. like when someone tells you a task is easy and that person will never be the one who is performing the work to get the task done. Sure it's easy,I tell you it is very easy to move mountains with a tea spoon.I will sit in my chair and watch you do the work and for me it is easy as pie.
 

[marathonman]

Steadily bumpin your gums RSWAMI and saying nothing as always and who give a shit what you and Hanon are quarreling about, PLEASE keep it to your selves. yall sound like a married couple.
i also thought you had your own thread....... i guess that went down the pipe of the flushing toilet.

Very true DOUG.


It seems to me that most people on this forum are having a tough time visualizing part G in the Figuera device.  the winding's on the core in part G acts to inhibit currant flow so with more winding's involved that equates to more reluctance (resistance to currant flow) so as part G spins the reluctance is varied between Set N and Set S. that is the reason i posted the iron bar being removed from the coil to get a grasp of what i was trying to convey. as the bar is removed from the coil less winding's are involved so less reluctance, more currant will flow.
part G also stores currant being shoved into it's core from the receding electromagnet being shoved out of the secondary in the form of a magnetic field that is in constant rotation from the rotation of the brush.  each half rotation of the brush the core of part G's magnetic field is being replenished from the declining electromagnets so as there is very little loss the magnetic field in part G is kept at a constant replacing only the little losses as needed.

it seems some people in this forum can not bend the mind around this concept and all they want to do is argue and post a lot of bull shit.

of course one can use transistors to mimic the rotation of the brush if one wants to but it has to be on the high side not on the low side as that would block all inductive kick back from the declining electromagnet being shoved out of the secondary. this is even what Figuera said in his patent, ie..... the use of switches.

part G also becomes the power supply because as we all know currant's true flow is from negative to positive so that means Part G will be the power supply in the form of a magnetic field varying the currant in the form of reluctance as the brush rotates.

the primaries are NN in design as because NS will interact with one another and you CAN NOT VERY THEIR INTENSITY of two opposite attracting magnetic fields. THIS WILL NOT EVER HAPPEN.
so Figuera used two NN magnets to mimic the different directions of magnetic fields without the powerful interaction getting in the way. this action of the two NN magnets causes a double electric field with the same intensity as a strong NS field. that is why the induction falls off dramatically if one electromagnet is not in sink with the other. the two primaries share the same relative space of the secondary causing this double intensity field.   B fields cancel E fields add
if you can't understand this concept i would suggest you start reading more, do more research or pick another free energy device to build that has training wheels.

[NRamaswami]

Marathonman

I accept that my knowledge is limited.

You have not fully disclosed how to make the part G as per your ideas and how the connections are to be made.

I have a circuit designed by PJK. The circuit provides Full positive sign wave pulsed DC and the lowest point is +5 not zero. Patrick has taught me that under these conditions back emf eill mot come.
The circuit was designed for 56 volts and 25 to 100 Khz output. I am modifying the circuit to output 500 volts and possibly 1 amp and 25 - 100 KHz.
I believe it meets all requirements as a neon lamp will be
placed between the output and the primary input. We will test both 500 volt pulsed Dc and 1000 volts interrupted DC. We are also going to modify the core materials.

Under the circumstances I expect the device to meet all principles.

However expectations are one thing and observations are another thing.

The principle as Patrick reiterates is common. Sharp high speed unidirectional pulsed dc of high freqquency of the order of 1 Mhz are needed to access zero ppoint energy.

Higher the frequency higher the voltage higher the amperage we can get COP>1 devices.
I am using lower frequencies but sufficiently high voltage. I know how to bring in amperage. I ned to reduce the heating of the core.

But I do believe I have understood this device. Let me see if it would work.

Part G as indicated by you would be a low frequency device.

I am looking at high frequency that is safe.

[NRamaswami]

Marathonman

I have tested NN or identical poles facing each other. The maximum I was able to get is to light up one lamp. For the same input in NS configuration 12 lamps were lit. For this I needed to make a large secondary. In smaller secondaries there is zero voltage. No output.

Now I am confused by your statement E fields merge or double and B fields cancel each other. Your are correct that B fields cancel. How do you say E fields merge.

Please advise how the coil in secondary should be wound? Do you want me wind The Tesla Bifilar coil as interpreted by Muhammed in his book on explaining Don Smith devices.
It is essentially a contra rotating coil. End of first wire connected to end of second wire and reversing direction? If you have any other suggestion for coil in the secondary please let me know.
I can easily test it and post results. I believe not in pet theories but I go by experimental observations.

No abusive conduct if results do not come as you expect. I have learnt that magnets makeus feel humbler and defeated me too many times.

If results come I will post it in public domain.

Please let me know your insight..

One more qustion..As I understand now wires conducting electricity have magnrtic field around them. How can there be an electric field without magnetic field..It looks crazy but let me test any way.