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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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darediamond

Quote from: marathonman on July 28, 2016, 06:34:43 AM
QUOTE  "I have read everything I could find from Doug1 and from you, a lot of goodies there.
So I followed you from the start to now and I have seen the progress you have made, very good research and nice pictures to explain.
It is very helpful when I try to understand how the Figuera device works.
I felt that I have enough info now to start my self.
I have also read the patents available on line too.

I have seen Darediamonds posts, I really don't know what he is trying to achieve?
Seems like he is trying to confuse things and to make you and doug1 to be pissed and leave the thread.
I guess he want the research to stop, I don't see any other logical explanation."

this is a direct quote from another new person, i get these types of PM's on a daily basis from many, many people. do you ever stop and wonder why ??

people of this forum, there is many ways to wind your primaries, just use common coil winding techniques. as for the part G well it is a magnetic resistor/splitter and needs to be wound according to your primary/secondary ratio and core material.
if you are using a 1-1.6 ratio then i have to take my receding primary down only 1/3 rd of the way to clear the secondary. if you use a 1-1 ratio then you will need to take it down half way to clear the secondary.
get my drift.

MM
You can come up with whatever to egg yourself on. But then truth is Dough1 is not part of your lies for the second time again here on this page http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/12439-re-inventing-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-11.html he quoted Renowned  UFO Politics about what the correct polarity is and he was schooled about it.
If show us all  via live clean clear demonstrations how N-N or Same Pole will  produce output then the story will change.
Just do it. Action speaks more than words.

Sam6

My understanding of one of Faraday's experiments is that he pushed a bar magnet toward a loop of wire that had a galvanometer attached to the ends of the wire. When he pushed one pole of the magnet toward the wire, the galvanometer deflected in one direction, and when he retracted the magnet the galvanometer deflected in the opposite direction. The magnitude of the deflection was proportional to the rate of change of the flux through the loop.

If he went to the other side of the loop and caused the same pole of the magnet to approached the loop, the deflection of the galvanometer was opposite that of the initial approach deflection. In other words a magnet approaching a loop from the right produces the same deflection as a magnet receding from the left and vice versa.

My further understanding is that in a setup with 1) two bar magnets facing each other separated by a nonmagnetic bar glued between both like pole faces to keep them separated by a fixed distance and 2) a stationary loop with an attached galvanometer is wrapped around the nonmagnetic bar; if the magnets are moved back and forth, the galvanometer will move back and forth with twice the deflection magnitude as that of a single magnet moved at the same rate.

That says to me that Marathon Man is right: that the electric fields produced in a coil by two like poles of electromagnets facing each other when powered by voltages 90 degrees out of phase are additive.

With that in mind, I have attached a set of calculations for a single phase magnetic circuit based on that principle to produce 16KW. It appears that such a unit will fit in an area less than two feet square by a foot high, and weigh about 300 pounds. One of my major concerns is cooling requirements, as it will have losses amounting to about 1500 watts. I don't know how to calculate the temperature rise and would appreciate help in making that determination.

I have used the equations and methods outlined in some books that have been referenced earlier in this forum and are mentioned in the attached document. Because I want to have a proper understanding of the principles involved, I ask that forum members look the document over and point out errors due to improper logic, misunderstanding of principles, or stupidity. When exploring unfamiliar territory, I need all the help I can get. I would appreciate your comments, criticism, and corrections, as I am want all of us to be able to build these devices with defined outputs without having to mess around with trial and error.

Thanks in advance for your help.
Sam

marathonman

again, i am amazed i even respond to your continued delirious delusions and miss quotes. look at your post again, you will realize he is talking to Hanon NOT Doug1. DUH!
ufopolitics is wrong also, if you take a north electromagnet up and a south electromagnet down the spin directions are opposing, that means the induced currant will be opposing also. you people never cease to amaze me. the Figuera device can "NOT" nor ever will be a north south electromagnet. this is,  and will always be a scientific fact no matter how hard the bone head try's to make it work it just won't happen.
do you people ever stop to realize why no video has EVER been posted getting high output with N/S set up.
BECAUSE IT WILL NOT WORK ! DUH !

hanon

MM, you have to learn one very important subject. Do not feed the trolls.

Obviously they just want to argue and spoil the thread for some reason..... I dont care, there is so much garbage already in 250 pages here that is imposible to dig for good designs. All important info is collected is my site, which is a troll-free place.

I am 100% with you, maybe just some discrepancies in the part G which for me is not pure Figuera, but it may work also.

As I always add some technical data, contrary to trolls, here goes some good data to know:

http://overunity.com/14711/is-faradays-induction-law-correct/msg489010/#msg489010

marathonman

very well put, and thank you very much.

but i beg to differ on part G though. it is and will all ways be a rotating magnetic resistor that stores the kick back from the receding electromagnet being pushed out of the secondary. no one on this forum can change that, not myself, Doug1 or Figuera himself  if he was alive.
it can be made non moving also but the function will never change no matter how hard one tries.

PS. i don't follow Feynman because i think he's full of shit but Hooper, now your talking. he proved the validity of the Figuera device 70 years later.

Sam6;

Wow ! where do i start. your heat and copper losses are way off.  there is no air gap.  your amper turns for the primaries are not even in the ball park. that many turns has way to much induction to respond adequately in time.   the total weight of the devise is about twice of what you need.

i have a 20k output planned and it weighs 135 lbs  plus wire.
you have to realize those equations are for a standard mega loss generator and some do not apply here and others not so severe.

i do applaud you efforts though, it's good to see someone using their brain.

MM