Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[floodrod]

For clarification, I am appreciative of your sharing's. That image was in attempts to replicate the attached arrangement (in the patent) as it appears to me.

Attached are 2 other completely closed ones I have tried. As I said, I tried full cores, half cores, partial cores, no cores, etc.

I also plan to build one where the center induced coil is actually wrapped around the 2 connected halves of the electromagnets.

As was pointed out before by another member, there is a good chance Figuera's design does not capitalize on "Mutual Inductance" like the transformers of today.  Perhaps it is non-advantageous to allow the flux to pass through both poles of both electromagnets.

But in all honesty, I am not sure of any of it.  I am stumbling around in the dark like all who attempted before me.

[rakarskiy]

floodrod,

See how the generator works. You have assembled a transformer, but you need a generator. What you have done is a simplification.

For example, you draw a transformer with windings separated (FIGURE) in the opposite direction. In your case and in this design, the magnetic flux will be equal to the excitation magnetic flux. This is a transformer, the secondary circuit can no longer be removed. A generator is when the magnetic flux of the primary excitation is starting, and the main one is from the output phase. That is, in the generator, the main flux of the magnetic field forms a phase, and the excitation and phase fluxes are added. I also struggled with this, which is why current limitation in the primary excitation circuit is required. The complexity of this particular design is to catch the current from the phase and keep it in the presence of an appropriate load. On demand with load changes, this is not possible. Breakdowns happen even in synchronous mechanical generators. In low power generators with self-excitation, permanent magnets are built into the rotor housing.
For now, I have adopted a different concept for the impulse flyback convector. For a solid state generator, it's more efficient to build a machine like Holcomb or Sun.


Try to connect a large load to the phase. through a transformer.

[Ufopolitics]

Hello to All,

I have been reading all your progress on this thread plus in all your individual ones (I am basically referring to Cadman and Floodrod, real builders here)
As some of you know I have also played with Figuera Patent(s) in the past...I did see some huge anomalies, however, did not reach Overunity.
However, the main reason I decided to add this post, relates to the way I see Floodrod is making the coils CORES (All).

And this is just my opinion guys:
By using a typical, not "modified" Transformer Core like shown in the pictures, or the Two E-Frame facing each others...
Aren't you shunting each coils magnetic field?
According to my knowledge about steel cores and magnetic fields, you would be able to "project" a longer and stronger field if there is only a CENTER Core within coil(s). However, if you have another steel frame (on both sides like Dual E-Frames structures do) will definitively "short out" field POLES...then this field will have its own return (from N to S) within its own Steel Core...then the projection to seconday and even to primary on the other side at 180 degrees would be very weak.

Note on the Figuera Patent image, shown on Floodrod's previous post, where it shows the array of N-S with the "Y" member (output) sandwhiched between...please note a "rectangle shaped" component which travels between all three parts exactly in their center [[N]-[y]-[S]]
Wouldn't this rectangle indicates to have a single core between all three coils parts?

On the other hand, I wanted to say that I highly agree with your observations related to a shrinking North will become a South, while an expanding North will keep being a North...that is very, extremely correct!!
When we weaken an electromagnet, by reducing its input current, (not fully collapsing it!!) the magnetic spin takes the opposite direction, exactly the same way when you pull a permanent magnet away...

Just like Minkowsky wrote on his Spacetime book about the "corkscrew effect" of the magnetic field.

@Cadman: You are making a heck of a build my friend!!...plus I love the way you are using the own exciters (primaries) as the reducers of the field, by setting multiple flat coils which turn on and off at a sequential order...instead of using resistors!!
This way no energy will be wasted on resistors heat, and the reduction will take place within the inner exciting system.
Excellent idea there friend!!

Regards to all

Ufopolitics

[rakarskiy]

Note on the Figuera Patent image, shown on Floodrod's previous post, where it shows the array of N-S with the "Y" member (output) sandwhiched between...please note a "rectangle shaped" component which travels between all three parts exactly in their center [[N]-[y]-[S]]
Wouldn't this rectangle indicates to have a single core between all three coils parts?

Good time!

Description from FIEGUER Patent No. 30378 (1902)

The undersigned inventors compose their generator as follows: Several electromagnets are placed one in front of the other, the poles of opposite names being separated by a small distance. The cores of all these electromagnets are formed in such a way that they quickly magnetize and demagnetize and do not retain residual magnetism. In the empty space remaining between the pole faces of the electromagnets of these two series, the induced wire passes one by one, or several, or many. The excitatory current, intermittent or alternating, drives all the electromagnets, which are connected either in series or in parallel, or as necessary, and currents will arise in the inductive circuit, which together constitute the total current of the generator. This allows the mechanical force to be suppressed as there is nothing to be moved.

Note
Invention of an electrical generator without the application of mechanical force, since nothing moves, which produces the same effects of operating dynamo-electric machines thanks to several stationary electromagnets excited by intermittent or alternating current, which creates induction in a stationary inductive circuit placed within the magnetic fields of the exciting electromagnets.

It is technically impossible to fulfill such a condition. I tried to do this many times. If a groove is used, then there will be no magnetic lines of force in the groove that will cross the inductor wire. In the cavity of the groove, the magnetic induction will be several times less, which will not allow the formation of conditions for the fulfillment of the formula: E=B_mlv
I trust the drawing more than the actual description, which could have been changed. In reality, only the drawing is authentic.

Note from the 1908 patent (after Figer's death). I am convinced that there is no essence of a magnetic circuit in it, and "y" between pairs of north-south poles is nothing more than a metaphor.

PS. Do not take for trolling, this is a sober look. The gap is needed to organize the linearity of the change in the magnetic flux, plus the ease of remagnetization (in a closed magnetic circuit, this is very costly to do, plus the linearity of the magnetic flux cannot be achieved). Resistive controller for limiting the current in the excitation circuit. The main magnetic flux must be from the current strength of the phase with the load. Everything is like in the operation of a synchronous mechanical generator.

[floodrod]

Excellent reply UFO. Thank you..  I am pleased that others are discussing this, especially how the shrinking side crosses the zero line from the growing side.

Now to see the next step.  Once the shrinking side passes the zero line, the current is reversed. It starts flowing from negative to positive while inducing.

Problem is I am using bridge rectifiers which do not allow current to flow from negative to positive. So the only current I could get to pass the zero line is the reverse diode leakage that can get through.

I believe the original resistor rig worked to direct the current that passed the zero line from the shrinking electromagnet back to the growing electromagnet.

The discussions about the coil cores are interesting, but I think premature because we do not have the entire system mapped out yet to even test it.

The coils could be correct and perfect, but we would never know because we do not have a path for the current that passes the zero line to return anywhere.