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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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phoneboy

@ znel & alan
Quote from: znel on June 15, 2023, 10:39:32 AMAlan, your right about the flux capacitor in a sense... I believe cook had the closest version of such a device if there was one.   I read once that all that is needed is 2 wires of different sizes to reproduce this phenomenon - I believe it was hendershot that made the statement, don't ask me to find it again... hidden in the massive amount of research files only to be remembered as significant. 

Nix85, I don't believe you can remove the lenz forces from a generator/alternator and still produce an output... seems it's part of the natural scheme of things. 

It's kind of funny, but you're actually talking about what you would use to do just that, or at least mitigate them somewhat. But that's off topic for Figuera's device (entropy).

floodrod

Quote from: phoneboy on June 15, 2023, 02:54:57 PM
Nix85, I don't believe you can remove the lenz forces from a generator/alternator and still produce an output... seems it's part of the natural scheme of things. "

I believe all "Forces" that are exerted upon something else, Including "Lenz Force" should be harvestable.

In a standard generator, Lenz acts to impede the rotor's motion and that force is directly transferred the bolts or braces that hold the "stator" stationary.   If the stator was not braced, the stator itself would be in motion from the Lenz drag. So the question becomes, how best to harvest the torque applied to the stator brace without sacrificing the generated power.

This is what Figuera accomplished with a non-moving generator. He devised a way to re-route the reciprocal magnetic field back into the device.

Just my opinion


alan

Quote from: znel on June 15, 2023, 10:39:32 AM
nix85 your definitely  right about there being nothing new, at this point it's more about rediscovery than actually discovering something new - although the opportunity still exists in many forms.   

I've spent an enormous amount of time researching the beginning of all this, it seems discovery boomed from late 1700's to late 1800's then by the early 1900's all that was learned was scrubbed and hidden.   Those are the secrets we are trying to re-discover.   One patent that vaguely spills the beans is from gramme 1882 ( US 269281 ) (beginning at line 37 pg2) which pertains to a "problem" being solved in this patent as is explained in the text.   Stating " the reaction of the current upon itself is more energetic than the original which produced it".    This "problem" is, I believe, a small peek into re-discovery.  Reproduceable by sending 2 signals down a line.   As they cross each other on the line they become additive... a combination of both energies at the same moment - a rogue wave as it were.   They all new about it back then ( tesla, cook, stubblefield, figuera, hendershot, etc ).   

I'll leave it there as this subject can divert you down many many rabbit holes which may not be on topic of this thread. 

Alan, your right about the flux capacitor in a sense... I believe cook had the closest version of such a device if there was one.   I read once that all that is needed is 2 wires of different sizes to reproduce this phenomenon - I believe it was hendershot that made the statement, don't ask me to find it again... hidden in the massive amount of research files only to be remembered as significant. 

Nix85, I don't believe you can remove the lenz forces from a generator/alternator and still produce an output... seems it's part of the natural scheme of things. 

Ok, busy day ahead - I'll try to get back later ....  happy researching !!!
Do you have an image of the circuit that is shown in the video? 


znel

Quote from: alan on June 16, 2023, 07:47:49 AM
Do you have an image of the circuit that is shown in the video?
Hi alan, do you mean the one with the solenoid, magnets and LED? or the picture of the fig device with a dc output?
The video is just a simple solenoid coil with an LED connected.   I'm moving the magnet ( a single pole ) from one end of the solenoid to the other then repeating the process.   Basic example of a DC output.   

The picture of the fig device above ( bulb lit, scope shot ) is part of the above diagram representing a dc flow through the circuit with a return to the source.     

Going back to the solenoid demonstration, any solenoid with a large amount of wire and a moving magnetic flux cutting through the turns of wire will produce similar results ( basic generator theory).   Maintaining a single direction will create a magnetic rise and fall in the core without reversal.  Repeating the process  ( same pole same original starting point ) will maintain a dc output with small fluctuations.   

I can draw something up if you'd like - I'm also a more visual learner - a clear picture will tell a better story than an entire book.  let me know and I'll do what I can to clarify it.



znel

Quote from: floodrod on June 15, 2023, 06:07:29 PM
I believe all "Forces" that are exerted upon something else, Including "Lenz Force" should be harvestable.

In a standard generator, Lenz acts to impede the rotor's motion and that force is directly transferred the bolts or braces that hold the "stator" stationary.   If the stator was not braced, the stator itself would be in motion from the Lenz drag. So the question becomes, how best to harvest the torque applied to the stator brace without sacrificing the generated power.

This is what Figuera accomplished with a non-moving generator. He devised a way to re-route the reciprocal magnetic field back into the device.

Just my opinion
I believe your on the right path to discovery.   Many of these devices all had something in common that has been covered up over the years.   Cooks special "insulation", stubblefields  in ground coils and heating plates, morays radiant receiver, teslas radiant receiver, hendershots reciever.... on and on we go,  the details being scrubbed from existence over the years.  Something is always left out so it cannot be reproduced.   

Now, back in that time frame radium was readily available and used quite extensively in a lot of products.    The government quickly created a massive fear campaign against it and started controlling every aspect of its use until it was no longer easily available to the public anywhere.    They literally didn't want anyone to know the benefits.   

So add to the system a way of "attracting" a charge - an external source of energy then you'll have a free energy system.