Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[Artoj]

Hi All

I think Figuera made his patent vague enough so you could not copy his work and broad enough to cover a multitude of configurations, this is the writing and drawing of someone keen on both protecting his work and misleading its true configuration. We can all use our expertise, just as 100's of others have done to make different versions, alas I can only add another version myself. We are confronted by the fallacy of words against the engineering reality. I have added a few simple switches that can reconfigure some of the vagueness to concrete possibilities  Regards Arto

[Farmhand]

Please bear with me on this and read on.  I'm posting because I am interested, not to try to dissuade anyone.

Not sure if anyone has noted or mentioned this but Tesla's patent for the Apparatus for the Utilization of Radiant Energy - was issued 1901 November 5,
and the patent for Method of Utilizing of Radiant Energy - 1901 November 5.

Now both these patents pre date Figuera's patent, and so it makes sense to me that Figuera may well have used the atmospheric or radiant energy collector to gather the energy to power the device, but could not possibly patent that part because Tesla already did it, it is even possible that Tesla heard of Figuera's plan and intuitively knew what he was doing and so hurriedly filed the patent first even though he likely thought of the principal many years before. Figuera's patent is 1902, very close to the same time and due to Tesla already patenting the general idea of getting energy from the atmosphere, Figuera was left only with the "rotary switched inverter" apparatus to patent which could be used to generate AC electricity from the energy gained from the collector.

It is just one possibility that makes sense as the patent shows a positive and negative input and it describes an exciting current from an external source. Although.

The parts in bold in the paragraph below don't really make sense. Firstly if the current does not return to the generator there is no current loop and so it would not even work without that happening, so the current returning to the generator means little to nothing. Secondly if the feeding current was just removed then the current loop would need to be connected back to itself to maintain a current loop, and as well the 'output power as the result of the initial feeding current' would need to be more power in real Watts than the "input power" related to the feeding current.
One thing is for sure, and that is if a switch was opened to disconnect the feeding current the current loop would be broken and the operation would cease very quickly. This leaves two options the input was shorted to itself or a battery or other source of potential was left connected. No current will flow without a closed loop, unless through displacement current as in a capacitor and that only works with AC. Thirdly if the device did in fact produce more output than input and could work with no input then it would surely continue to increase the system energy until destruction. He seems to be claiming that the returning of the current means it will keep working with no further input. I don't think the entire story is told. If I genuinely thought it could work I would surely try to build one, and if someone does in fact end up looping one I will eat my hat on video and apologize. I think it possible he could start it with a battery then use the collector to continue it's working.

As seen in the drawing the current, once that has made its function, returns to the generator where taken; naturally in every revolution of the brush will be a change of sign in the induced current; but a switch will do it continuous if wanted.  From this current is derived a small part to excite the machine converting it in self-exciting and to operate the small motor which moves the brush and the switch; the external current supply, this is the feeding current, is removed and the machine continue working without any help indefinitely.

Something doesn't add up. But I would say that if the initial power source is removed and the current loop was broken by the feed wires not connected together, there would be no more current and it would definitely cease to work.

He does claim it can be done somehow in this patent http://www.alpoma.com/figuera/patente_1908.pdf 1908 though he is not clear on how to remove the feeding current supply. I read it that he claims it runs itself.

As seen in the drawing the current, once that has made its function, returns
to the generator where taken; naturally in every revolution of the brush will be
a change of sign in the induced current; but a switch will do it continuous if
wanted. From this current is derived a small part to excite the machine
converting it in self-exciting and to operate the small motor which moves the brush and the switch; the external current supply, this is the feeding current,
is removed and the machine continue working without any help indefinitely.

However in this patent 1902 http://www.alpoma.com/figuera/docums/30378.pdf  he makes no such claim but states this.

The driving current, or is
an independent current, which, if direct, must be interrupted or changed in sign
alternately by any known method, or is a part of the total current of the
generator, as it is done today in the current dynamos.

Anyway good luck, and I hope to taste my hat soon. 

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[Farmhand]

Anyone know how old Figuera was when he died ?

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[hanon]

Figuera was 68 years-old when he died in november 1908.

He was still working as engineer for the Spanish government, but all this research was done in his spare time, not related to his job for the State

[NoMoreSlave]

Hallo,
is Figuera a Lenz killer by 90 degrees?
Please make some +&- operation and share your opinion.

Hi Farmhand,
nice to see your post.
IMO, the switch you mentioned  is a commutator (the second one controlled by the motor, witch not appears in the patents, because it was a common method), it has the function of converting the AC to DC.
like the one you find in the DC motors but it is used in reveres mode, the brushes rotate to get DC from the statistic output coil for the self-looping.

Regards,
NMS