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Single circuits generate nuclear reactions

Started by Tesla_2006, July 31, 2006, 08:15:00 PM

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aleks

Quote from: mikewatson on June 27, 2008, 06:20:58 AMSeveral impulses were tried through the carbon at each voltage setting without a trace of beta emission.
If I'm not mistaken, beta should be emitted as per Protelf theory, and it requires an additional tungsten rod. Juan (inital poster of this thread) used carbon rod alone. So, he could have not even cared about absence of beta emission as long as the thing worked. Without tungsten it's not Protelf anymore I think, it is something else.

I'm also a bit confused about 100 J discharges. There should be frequency given, because discharge is an impulse event. Does it mean that if you run at 50 Hz, each pulse should carry 2 J only?

twosox

ok, first test. 12v 35A. rod gets toasty warm. bumped it up to 24v and popped the fet. ::)

not sure about the scope shot tho, very symmetrical (wife says 'ooooo fish') need to look at the voltage supply, even tho it should be dc the scope says its ac ??? scope set to 1ms 10v / div.
oscillator is about 4ms on 1ms off (building a new top notch oscillator should be ready by monday).

mikewatson

Quote from: aleks on June 27, 2008, 01:13:16 PM
If I'm not mistaken, beta should be emitted as per Protelf theory, and it requires an additional tungsten rod. Juan (inital poster of this thread) used carbon rod alone. So, he could have not even cared about absence of beta emission as long as the thing worked. Without tungsten it's not Protelf anymore I think, it is something else.

I'm also a bit confused about 100 J discharges. There should be frequency given, because discharge is an impulse event. Does it mean that if you run at 50 Hz, each pulse should carry 2 J only?

It is confusing. The Carbon only method is taken from ?Qui Osera Refuter La Synergetique? (Who dares to refute Synergetics) Synergetics is Vall?e?s theory of course. The article can be found in

http://franckvallee.free.fr/localhost/plain/content/download/137/535/file/Science%20&%20vie.PDF

There are a couple of diagrams from the above article which are similar to the carbon only experiment I am trying.
Apparently these were the work of  Belgian called E. d? Hooker who produced a synergetic generator. It is still supposed to work on Vall?e?s electron capture/ beta emission, and is presumably the source of Juan?s method.
It is true that Vall?e?s experiment as done by Naudin is different but the electron capture/beta particle connection as the source of the energy is the same. The next stage might be to try a carbon arc and see if that gives beta emission with a magnetic field present.
Regarding the carbon rod experiment, it seems to me that if beta emission is involved, and even if most  of it is absorbed by the surrounding carbon, there should be a beta leakage at least equivalent in strength to that of  potassium isotope K40 in potassium chloride (which is readily detectable in culinary salt substitute) and there was nothing in my tests.
I do not see any merit at present in using AC if we get nothing from DC impulses. I suppose it is possible that AC could produce an effect where DC will not due to some unknown mechanism but we have to start somewhere.

Mike

AbbaRue

I'm going on holidays Sat. so I won't be experimenting.
I hope to get on the forum with the laptop to keep up with news.
But if you don't here from me you know why.
Should be back in the middle of July.
I'm going rock hounding in northern Ontario. about 2 hrs from Ottawa.
I'm taking my radiation detector with me so maybe I can find a good beta source.  :)
But I mainly go up there for the Corundum, hope to find some gem quality crystals.

Till later.

eldarion

Quote from: mikewatson on June 27, 2008, 03:41:36 PMI do not see any merit at present in using AC if we get nothing from DC impulses. I suppose it is possible that AC could produce an effect where DC will not due to some unknown mechanism but we have to start somewhere.

It is quite possible that the AC system will work better (easier and simpler too) with the type of carbon that is found in batteries, i.e. ultra low resistance.  I am setting up to perform an experiment along those lines.

Eldarion
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