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Overunity Machines Forum



The Paradox Engine

Started by Tusk, November 16, 2012, 08:20:52 AM

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telecom

Perhaps it will be beneficial to use two Tusk's apparatus side by side.
When one EM drive is braking and works as a generator, it sends the energy
to another EM drive to accelerate the disc and vice versa.

telecom

I was thinking of 2 discs and 1 arm,, while one disc is being spun up by the drive unit the other disc is being slowed down by the regenerative unit,, creating a more balanced output force maybe.
The discs should have an opposite rotation to help each other?
Still will be needed some kind of a power transfer between the FoR to compensate for the losses...

telecom

Quote from: webby1 on January 01, 2014, 03:57:50 PM
The direction you force the magnet\disc into moving is the same direction the arm will move,, that is why I went with the outside regenerative system, it will try and move the disc\magnet such that the arm will move in the same direction while they are trying to slow the disc down as the drive unit trying to speed it up.

Any *forced* change in RPM of the disc will create a change in the arm.

Webby1,
do you have any idea how electrically connect the disks EM drive and the rotating arm's output to make the current circulate?

telecom

Quote from: webby1 on January 01, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
You could use induction coupling,, a transformer does not need to have direct contact.

I have a Sonicare toothbrush,, you place the toothbrush handle in the charging cradle and it charges up the battery, no contacts involved, I would suppose that one could take the toothbrush apart and use it,, or it may be much better to build one from scratch.

Wireless power transmission on such a short range is fairly straight forward nowadays,, but all that kind of stuff is outside of my scope of abilities.

Thinking to myself,, the Sonicare has a built in system to run a drive coil to move the magnets that move the brush,, change the frequency of that and you might be able to have the whole drive system and controller,,,
I think what you are talking about only works with a very small air gap.
Probably sliding contacts could do the job...

Tusk

Wander off for a few hours around here and you have to spend hours trying to catch up  :)

(from webby1)

QuoteI am assuming that the rate of rotation of the disc, or its RPM does not matter,, and nor does the RPM of the arm.

I deliberately restricted my thinking to an inertial device, so yes as it stands the disk at least would always be either accelerating or decelerating. If it turns out that the outer ring braking essentially works like inertia we might run the device at a constant rate (disk and/or rotor arm) adjusting the brake force as required. But I will say at this point that we are in uncharted territory here, due to the difficulty just getting the basic idea 'out there' as it stands I had to leave some work undone. But at first glance I don't see any obstacles with this, yet. 

Quotein a sense the disc is responding like an object under the influence of gravity, an influence that you are creating

I guess you could think of it that way, since we are dealing with a constant force (at least that is the intention). Similar then to the often proposed 'gravity wheel' where I believe the goal is to somehow manipulate gravity so that it effects one side more than the other. Here we supply the force which creates a bias in the reaction; bias is opportunity.

Quotewhile one disc is being spun up by the drive unit the other disc is being slowed down by the regenerative unit

I imagine there is a myriad of possible arrangements worth considering, with various benefits. I'll need to think about this one, it may just offer a smoother cycle and reduce wear and tear.

QuoteAll you need to do is to be able to demonstrate the effect and that the impact of that effect is less than the cost of the effect,, I think you may be close to, if not being able to, do all that ,, so I think you have it right so far.

Thanks webby1, I would not have rolled this out if I didn't believe that the combined weight of the theory and experimental data was sufficient proof; I had not allowed for the understandable disbelief and difficulty experienced by others attempting to follow my logic. Those aspects of the theory which test credibility are I think covered by the data. But 'joining the dots' as it were, requires some willingness and effort, so I appreciate your tolerance and determination.

(and this from telecom)

QuoteThe discs should have an opposite rotation to help each other?

With a twin disk setup if one disk rotates clockwise then so too the other. This creates opposing secondary reactions at the disk axes on opposite sides of the rotor arm, ergo additive forces (and no excess baggage of a counter balance as with the single disk setup).