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Karl Schappeller's Secret Sublimate for his Electret!

Started by gravityblock, December 05, 2012, 12:52:18 PM

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ourbobby

Quote from: e2matrix on December 16, 2013, 12:04:34 PM
Mostly to play with the new OCR program I translated this to English.  Attached is doc conradelctro put up - now in English.

Looks interesting, although a bit heavy on the socialism. I think Schappeller has often been seen to be a bit of a nut job. Its not clear if his sphere would actually work.

The Op's preoccupation with the electret is only part of the sphere process which also reads like a tour-bus discovery tour for early physyics. We know much more these days which begs the question, what was Schappeller actually trying to say? Lots of early techniques found non-normal phenomena, which today we might take as normal, such as some of the early electromagnetics of Tesla. Also, electret microphones.

Robbie

mikewatson

We know what exactly what Karl Schappeller's secret sublimate is from the papers of Louis Gfoellner Schappeller's laboratory assistant. A group of us acquired the Gfoellner papers from his estate. The sublimate is a mixture of pitchblende and carbon melted  together by an radio frequency induction furnace.
Here is a letter dated 24 June 1927
"Nun hat Modi mit mehreren Metern, ja acht Meter lang en Wellen gearbeitet und mit Gfollner dies herausprobiert, wobei ich in Sorge um die Hantierenden war, denn ein Blitz ist leicht umgestellt und kann die FOhrung verlieren. Steine und Porzellan schmolzen, und ich wollte in Wien immer dazu anregen, dass der magnetostatische Schmelzapparat gebaut wird, um die Elektreten[-]Metalle zu erhalten, die uns vor Nachahmung schOtzen. Da dies noch nicht gelungen list], muss nun der Motor gebaut werden, der wohl auch so, aber doch [noch] nicht die Vollendung ist, die man braucht. Dass man Akkumulatoren und dergl. Platten schon trocken aufladt, ist auch kein Wunder, und hat uns die Natur im Radium die natOrliche Konsistenz der gebundenen Elektronenenergie vorgefOhrt. Eine Kombination im Uranerz und der Pechblende hat uns mit dem Radium bekannt gemacht und wir wissen, wie lange so ein Gramm Radium imstande ist zu strahlen. Das Radium ist ein kunstvoll geartetes Elektretenprodukt der Natur, ohne d[as] dem Zeitenstrom der Gegenwart auf keinem Gebiet der Technik ein Ganzes moglich ist, denn die Forscher und Erfinder sind wie Pilze aus der Erde geschossen, nachdem die ungeheuer vielseitige..." [/font]
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"Our present (oscillator) models work at several meters (wavelength), eight meters long waves have been worked out and tested by Gfollner, and I was concerned about the handling, because a flash-over is easily caused and current can jump off the conductors. Stones and porcelain were fused, and I always wanted to encourage in Vienna that the special magnetostatic melting apparatus which is built to make the electrets – is used to obtain (ordinary) metals in order to protect us from imitation. As this task has not yet succeeded, the engine must now be built, probably so, but [still] is not the completion, one needs. One set of charged batteries and the like slabs are already dry, and is it not a miracle that nature has given us the natural radium in the natural consistency which then presents us with the bound electron energy. A combination of the uranium ore pitchblende, and has made us acquainted with the radium, and we know how long does a gram of radium is able to shine. The radium is an artfully special sort of Electret product of nature without  the limited life usually present in any field of art, a lot is possible because  researchers and inventors spring like mushrooms from the ground, as a result of the incredibly diverse literature that has suggested many applications.....". [/font]
Mike

gravityblock

Quote from: mikewatson on December 21, 2013, 07:45:28 AM
We know what exactly what Karl Schappeller's secret sublimate is from the papers of Louis Gfoellner Schappeller's laboratory assistant. A group of us acquired the Gfoellner papers from his estate. The sublimate is a mixture of pitchblende and carbon melted  together by an radio frequency induction furnace.

I read that his sublimate hardens when placed in a magnetic field.  A magnetoelecret is an electret created by an external magnetic field and heat.  The procedure involves heating the sublimate to a constant desired temperature and the application of the magnetic field at that temperature for a constant duration of time. After this, the sublimate is then cooled in the presence of a magnetic field till they come to room temperature.  Now, does this process describe the "radio frequency induction furnace" as mentioned in the Gfoellner papers and in how the sublimate hardens while being placed in an external magnetic field?

Below are some excerpts from Ioannis Xydous, in his publication titled, "AQP" (an Alternative Qauntum Physics).

The application of Faraday's paradox on a quantum level has an unexpected and astonishing result, revealing that charges appear to have a self-rotation due to the coupling of the electric and the magnetic field on a quantum level.  On further analysis, a stationary charge distribution does not appear a magnetic field but only when an external torque acts upon it. The elementary charges come into existence (pair production phenomenon) with a rotational Energy as given by the rotating vacuum. This rotational Energy is responsible for the appearance of the magnetic field (the rotation is the cause of current appearance on charge's surface)

Open secret: The elementary charged particles are created always with a perpetual rotation in the vacuum where the source of this Energy is the rotating vacuum itself. Nature reveals us that the secret of perpetual motion (rotational motion) is the coupling of a static electric field with a static magnetic field in such a way that will give rise to a constant and permanent angular momentum.  Within the rotating frame of an electric charge appears simultaneously a quadrupole field (electric, magnetic, gravitational and inertial) where it justifies the force that acts upon the charged particles is actually electromagnetic and gravitoinertial in nature.

[End of Excerpts]

In addition to this, the 2D topology of the vacuum (aether) as rendered by Ioannix Xydous is a near perfect match to the "tablet of shamash", to a cymatic frequency, and with Coral Castle (see this thread for additional information).

Can a static electric field be coupled to a static magnetic field in such a way that will give rise to a constant and permanent angular momentum?  Could this coupling be sound?  A sound frequency that generates the same geometrical patterns as the electret's electric field and to the same geometrical patterns of the external magnetic field that was initially used to form the electret.  Would this coupling then give rise to a constant and permanent angular momentum?  Of course it would, since a stationary charge distribution (electret) doesn't appear with a magnetic field unless there is an external torque acting upon it.  An induced magnetic field of an electret would be evidence of an external torque acting upon it.  The rotational energy of the rotating vacuum is responsible for the appearance of the magnetic field.  In summary, there is a perfect impedance match or 100% transfer of energy between light and sound which enables the coupling of the quadrupole field in such a way that will give rise to a constant and permanent angular momentum.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

mikewatson

In my youth I knew Cyril Davson and also met Herbert Ruff who built various experimental bits for Schappeller and Gfoellner, Schappeller's Lab assistent.
Regarding Schappeller, the problem is you cannot even start from current electromagnetic theory. You have to start from the physics concept of entropy, that is that all energy degrades when used, it moves from the ordered state to a disordered state, but it is not created or destroyed, so for example you put fuel into a car engine and get energy, carbon dioxide and water out, the energy has become more disordered, an increase in entropy, so entropy may be seen as a measure of disorder.
On the other hand an apple tree takes muck, carbon dioxide, water and sunlight in and produces highly ordered  fruit (apples) and wood out, it takes relatively disordered substances in and uses highly ordered energy in the form of sunlight to produce fruit  etc. so sunlight may regarded as a source of order or negative entropy.
in conventional physics world all this negative entropy stuff was discussed by The father of quantum mechanics Erwin Schroedinger in his book "What is Life".  Energy cannot be destroyed only its entropy changes, or to put it another way, its state of order changes.
Schappeller's machine is an negative entropy converter increasing order from disorder like a tree or plant, opposite to a car engine (and all modern machinery)  which produces disorder form a relatively order input in the form of hydrocarbon fuels created  by the life process of trees millions of years ago.
Schappeller was not alone. Rudoph Steiner the founder of the anthroposophy movement thought the same way:
Dr. Pfeiffer's question to Steiner
« The method of science, in a materialistic sense, is based on
analysis splitting apart (today atom-splitting and fusion etc.),
disintegration, separation, dissecting and all the procedures which have
to destroy and take apart, to work on the corpse rather than to grow, to
develop, to synthesize. That the human mind was captured by these
methods of braking apart: in that I saw the source of our present
situation.
My question therefore is this:
" Is it possible to find another force or energy in nature,
which does not have in itself the principle of atomising and splitting but rather
builds up, synthesizes. Is there a constructive force, which
makes things alive and grow. Can we develop and build up adequate methods of
investigation, eventually using this force for another type of technology, applied
to drive machines, and because of the inner nature of this force or
energy we might be able to create another technology fostering
constructive thinking of man rather than destructive thinking. This
force must have the impulse of life, of organisation within itself opposite to 
the so-called physical energies which have a splitting, separating trend
within themselves. My question to Rudolf Steiner in 1920 and spring 1921
therefore was:-[size=78%] [/size]
does such a force or source of energy exist? Can it be
demonstrated? Could an altruistic technology be build upon it?
When these questions formed themselves in my mind I met in Günther
Wachsmuth a life long friend who had pondered about exactly the same problems.
Some discussion with Rudolf Steiner were carried out individually, often we had discussions both together with R. Steiner.


My questions To Rudolph Steiner were answered as follows:-

Yes, such a force exists, but is not yet discovered. It is what is
generally known the ether (not the physical ether) but the force which
makes things grow, lives for instance in the seed as Samenkraft (growth force)
.
Before you can work with this force you must demonstrate its presence. As we
have reagents in chemistry, so you must find a reagent for the etheric
force. This force is also called formative etheric force because it is the force
which creates the form, shape, pattern of all living things and growth".
So Schappeller was not alone
Mike

mikewatson

Continuing the above missive...


This growth force or negative entropic energy was a a common speculation of the last and 19th century and was named "Vril" after a force mentioned in a novel by Sir Bulwer Lytton.
Anyway Schappeller said he thought the growth force or  Vril or UrKraft existed in the earth : he said in  Its is possible through the use of the "Urkraft" = fundamental force,  to dissolve any matter and reform it again in a new state. (See Raumkraft by Wetzel & Gfoellner, Schappeller's two assistants).
Henry Stevens' book "Hitler's Flying Saucers" contains a little more on this.


Mike