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TK device, TPU.. Only enter if you seek truth. Cause here it is...

Started by elementSix, December 14, 2012, 07:26:31 PM

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elementSix

Now that Magnacoaster has finally shipped out a bunch of devices.  The guy from the article I read about it, said that it uses Quantum Tunneling.  Just like in NMR, they excite the nucli with the electrons with High Frequency RF pulses and when the Nucli move with the electrons from the low energy state into the High energy state, the electrons disappear into another dimension and when they pop back they are carrying extra electrons and when they move back to the low energy state they emit those extra electrons.  How cool is that.

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verpies

Quote from: elementSix on December 22, 2012, 08:05:32 PM
The secrets that the Aus. guy talks about, says that the TPU uses the earth's Magnetic field for the stable magnetic field and they just use the RF pulses to create the excess energy. 
It is possible to use Earth's magnetic field to polarize nuclei. Also, it is possible to use RF pulses to cause their forced precession.
This method is abbreviated as EF-NMR.
However, I do not know how nuclear precession can release excess energy.

Quote from: elementSix on December 22, 2012, 08:05:32 PM
I believe that they use the copper or aluminum wire are the source for the synthetic energy produced.  Have you done anything recently with Paramagnetic Resonace??  Any help will be appreciated. 
I have not done anything with Electron Paramagnetic Resonance.  The frequencies needed for it are in microwave range - usually 10-100GHz.  Pulsed EPR requires pulses in nanosecond range.  Also, very few substances exhibit any ESR effect because very few substances have unpaired electrons.
...but, I have done some NMR experiments since it requires frequencies only in the low MHz range.

Quote from: elementSix on December 22, 2012, 08:05:32 PM
I know that NMR can't produce the voltage we need because it uses the RF pulses with the magnetic field coils and doesn't hit the sample directly.  Which is what I think needs to be done..
The nuclear precession in NMR does not cause any flow of electric current (movement of charges) even if the RF pulses penetrate the sample.
If the sample is conductive then RF pulses might induce some HF AC current of conduction electrons in it due to the antenna effect or skin/Eddy effect, but not due to nuclear precession.

Quote from: elementSix on December 22, 2012, 08:05:32 PM
So what we believe so far is that NMR or EFMNR is not the exact source
Source of what?

Quote from: elementSix on December 22, 2012, 08:05:32 PM
but a for of EFNMR which is Electron Paramagnetic Resonance is more likely what we need to use which is very similar. 
EF-NMR is not EF-EPR despite their principles being similar (first spin polarization and then its disturbance).  The microwave frequencies (~10GHz) make it very hard to work with EPR on a kitchen table.

Quote from: elementSix on December 22, 2012, 08:05:32 PM
Do you think that TK's device uses CW (continuous wave) function in his device or wide band RF pulses or CW?
If TK's devices are not fake and work according to principles outlined by McFreey, then my bet would be on wideband nanosecond pulses or FM sinewave around the anticipated frequency, possibly combined with LF AM modulation of the polarizing magnetic field (as in the Yoke device, which IMHO was the only reasonably well documented functioning device).

verpies

Quote from: elementSix on December 22, 2012, 08:42:12 PM
the electrons disappear into another dimension and when they pop back they are carrying extra electrons and when they move back to the low energy state they emit those extra electrons.  How cool is that.
Far out.

elementSix

Quote from: verpies on December 23, 2012, 02:49:00 AM
It is possible to use Earth's magnetic field to polarize nuclei. Also, it is possible to use RF pulses to cause their forced precession.
This method is abbreviated as EF-NMR.
However, I do not know how nuclear precession can release excess energy.

Ok,  What happens when you use NMR.  Now if you have a very good homogenous field and very good, very short pulses.  You get all the Nucli in the sample to spin at all the same time and spin vector at all the same time.  When they do this they produce a small magnetic field around the Nucli.  Now if they are all in sync together and spin that magnetic field around whatever axis, ie.. x,z or y.  Wouldn't that one mass of the spinning field create the energy in the copper wire around it or even if the sample is copper itself?  That spinning magnetic field, would it be strong enough to create those electrons in the conducting copper?

yfree

Quote from: elementSix on December 22, 2012, 08:42:12 PM
Now that Magnacoaster has finally shipped out a bunch of devices.  The guy from the article I read about it, said that it uses Quantum Tunneling.  Just like in NMR, they excite the nucli with the electrons with High Frequency RF pulses and when the Nucli move with the electrons from the low energy state into the High energy state, the electrons disappear into another dimension and when they pop back they are carrying extra electrons and when they move back to the low energy state they emit those extra electrons.  How cool is that.

I like your dedication, it certainly stands out.
However, be aware that what different inventors say about their devices has to be heavily filtered. Kapanadze never said anything sensible about his devices. The best he did was when he released the video of the "gravitation motor". Of course, this device has nothing to do with gravitation, except that it is heavy. But this motor exposed the simplicity of the device and it's possible working principle. The trick of disguising the primary coil of the rotary transformer into a toroid, in that device, was clever and spooked many.
Steven Mark had a mixture of truth and fiction. It is understandable that he was not completely honest when he said that his device was converting "natural magnetic field of the Earth" to energy. But he was honest partially because his device was using magnetic field in some way. He also was mentioning electrons moving near the speed of light, which points to beta-particles.
One thing is certain: NMR or EPR will not give additional energy on their own. You will be able to see it for yourself how weak the spin signal is on the Terranova NMR.