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@TK and @Tinman

If you want, you can open a thread inside this moderated group or ride on this thread for a while, no problem. This thread is just a mishmash or bounce board to run some insights.
Just go here if you want to start a new thread.
http://www.overunity.com/understanding-overunity/#.UO7JhXe9rok

About the circuit, for me, the bifilar coil is acting like a capacitor except in reverse.

Caps discharge on connect, inductors discharge on disconnect. But in this case the bifilar inductor is also a  capacitor. So what does it do in this circuit? I'd love to see some scope shots, one with the bifilar and one where you measure the bifilar capacitance and replace it with a real capacitor of that value. Will they act the same way? What if the same value cap and bifilar were in parallel.

@all

For me I want to look at each step of the pulsing process and have been mulling over what step #1 should be and till now, I think starting by just taking a wire and shorting it across a car battery would be a good first step.

What does DC do to a wire? Do it 10 times. 5 times with the positive side connected first and 5 times with negative side connected first. Measure from the positive to the negative where the wire breaks. Report the results to the group. If 2-3 guys can do this, it will provide more input and possibly confirm a trend. Then asking the question, why are the results the way they are. Then comparing this to conventional theory. Then comparing it to alternative theory. What fits the effect.

This one little simple but destructive action of shorting a wire could say so much and maybe we just jumped over this effect as a given. But everything else that we can imagine, build and then connect to this same battery is but a fancier version of a short circuit and if we don't really know how our battery works under the simplest of these, how are we supposed to best use it?

So maybe the short circuit is the ultimate battle of the dualities. What if 100 wire lengths were shorted, where does it break the most and why? The wire type I am thinking of is non enameled 14 awg or 16 awg copper wire that has no bends and connected directly to the battery terminal with pliers. What do you think the majority will show?

@Dave45

This is a coil I submerged in water and froze you can see the A vector field.
This is the field we need to study.

Yes, this is one question to answer. If the coil was constantly energized or pulsed while the water was freezing, then you need one more coil in a separate cylinder of freezing water as well but not energized and as a control base, one more cylinder without a coil, to compare and confirm the differences. Otherwise you can then make many erroneous assumptions of what you are seeing.

Is the visual effect frequency dependent and what happens when the frequency changes while the water is freezing. What if the coil received a stronger capacitive discharge, etc.

Usually one little experiment will open up more questions and more variables. The more you do of these, the more you will learn about the effect.

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[poynt99]

A thread has now been opened.
http://www.overunity.com/13244/electron-reversing-device/msg350510/#new

[Dave45]

Hey TK
I was thinking about the vid you did with the plasma mug
As you can see the field stays the same, its just how we are viewing it 

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@all

Hmmmmmm. Very hectic weekend in our family but I had some time to try wire shorts over a fully charged 12vdc car battery. I used 14awg wire of 12" long each. The effect is so immediate and too fast to visually comprehend the effect. Also, the wire goes into plasma mode and just falls apart due to its own weight. I have to find a way to slow down the destructive effect and also to fully support the wire on a stone material so the wire breach would be caused by the over current and not by gravity. I will have to use the camera and hopefully afterward with VitualDubMod at 30 frames per second, I could see the effect progression. You would probably need a real high speed camera to see it in true slow motion.

Yes I know this sounds so juvenile because we all know what happens to a wire when you short it on a car battery, but we do not really know what is happening in that one split second. We see the immediate outcome and stop there, but there is much more to this then meets the eye.

What is happening in a wire under extreme conditions is what is happening in our coils under lesser extremes. I need to know this in order to design a better primary coil strategy because I am convinced this is where we are all going wrong. The primary is the ether attractor and director. How you wind and configure the primary will ultimately determine the maximum flux changes in a core. It will also determine where on the core those changes occur and how far these changes can transfer to one or more secondaries. There are so many variations of this one simple process that we can wind up getting lost in the standard methods for years and years.

The ultimate way to learn more about primary coils is pretty simple. You would require a toroidal core onto which you wind about 10 turns of wire, but at each turn you make a tap point. The ultimate again would be to then use 11 scope probes, one on each tap point plus the ends and all probes set at the same values. Then while you pulse the coil you can read the waveforms, hence energy changes throughout the primary coil while you make changes to frequency, width and amplitude pulse values. There is much more going on in the coil then we think by just looking at scoped waveforms at the start and end of a coil.  I have never seen this done this way. Sort of like when they put a bunch of probes on your head to measure the brain activity, but do it to measure coil activity.

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@all

OK, so here are three brief videos for shorting a battery with 14 awg by 12" long wires. From the first, then second then third video the battery power seems to decline so ideally I would need an good DC power supply that will always provide the same power level on each trial. But actually I am very happy already because they do show the effect in three different energy levels.

Understanding Overunity - Battery Short - Test 1
http://youtu.be/iAeoktG6hkg

Understanding Overunity - Battery Short - Test 2
http://youtu.be/tOMFbi7qXyo

Understanding Overunity - Battery Short - Test 3
http://youtu.be/78CoFCCyFBA

In all three videos the positive (left) was connected first.

So here is a small challenge to all OUers. Something so simple as shorting a wire and creating this simple effect but I would like to know how this is explained in standard EE methods or what you think is happening in alternative theory.

The answer is right in front of your eyes, but how will your EE trained mind tell your eyes what they are seeing, is what I am interested in. Then we can talk about the logic and see where this will lead to as a definite conclusion.

One simple question, let's see how many answers. What do you see in DC?

Eventually I would like to try this with 12vac and 100 amps. How will the effect differ? Hmmmmmm.

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