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Tesla Patent # 577670

Started by Goat, January 09, 2013, 05:25:40 PM

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Magluvin

Hey Crazycut

Unless the description describes mutual inductance to other components by these 2 coils, I think the dirction of winding doesnt matter much.  ;)

This circuit just may be a way of producing high freq/high voltage pulses to the transformer from a DC source.

It is definitely a dual rapid fire Igniter pat circuit.

If the caps values are smaller, during switch connection, the caps can resonate with the primary. But at disconnect, what state of charge might each cap be left with when the switch switches over? This causes offsets all over the pulse trace of random highs and lows. So I believe it is that each cap is just discharging in one direction into the primary, then recharged by the source through the inductor while the other cap is being discharged.

While writing that paragraph, I had a thought. If the switching is timed just right, the switch could possibly hold the cap across the primary long enough to allow the cap to discharge all the way to an opposite polarity(resonant oscillation) and back again till it is back near its previously charged state. This way consuming less from the input when recharging AND still providing a good up 'and' down pulse to the primary.  :o ;) Being a full cycle discharge, the input to the primary is most likely getting more, than if just a high to zero discharge of the cap as I was thinking of earlier. ;) ;)   Seems so. Will have to play with that.

In my mind, all things will need to be in near perfect tune. Coils, caps, timing. Maybe even the length of the connections between all components.

Mags


crazycut06

Quote from: Magluvin on January 13, 2013, 08:53:57 PM
Hey Crazycut

Unless the description describes mutual inductance to other components by these 2 coils, I think the dirction of winding doesnt matter much.  ;)

This circuit just may be a way of producing high freq/high voltage pulses to the transformer from a DC source.

It is definitely a dual rapid fire Igniter pat circuit.

If the caps values are smaller, during switch connection, the caps can resonate with the primary. But at disconnect, what state of charge might each cap be left with when the switch switches over? This causes offsets all over the pulse trace of random highs and lows. So I believe it is that each cap is just discharging in one direction into the primary, then recharged by the source through the inductor while the other cap is being discharged.

While writing that paragraph, I had a thought. If the switching is timed just right, the switch could possibly hold the cap across the primary long enough to allow the cap to discharge all the way to an opposite polarity(resonant oscillation) and back again till it is back near its previously charged state. This way consuming less from the input when recharging AND still providing a good up 'and' down pulse to the primary.  :o ;) Being a full cycle discharge, the input to the primary is most likely getting more, than if just a high to zero discharge of the cap as I was thinking of earlier. ;) ;)   Seems so. Will have to play with that.

In my mind, all things will need to be in near perfect tune. Coils, caps, timing. Maybe even the length of the connections between all components.

Mags


Every option is possible, we just need to try and investigate more, this is just one part of the puzzle to be solved, i'm diggin my old stuff to try this again, will be winding the coils first wiTh thick primary low resistance, then i'll put secondary "o" coils cw & ccw.


Regards
Cc

forest

Mags is correct, this is dual ignition patent  to eliminate dead time of charging capacitor (Tito is using just DC-DC or DC-AC-bridge inverter here but Tesla matched all elements and have here dual DC to DC converters)  . This is surely possible but dangerous (not circuit ::) ) - it was done many times. Look for PODMOD and history of inventor....

forest

Quote from: crazycut06 on January 14, 2013, 12:45:35 AM

Every option is possible, we just need to try and investigate more, this is just one part of the puzzle to be solved, i'm diggin my old stuff to try this again, will be winding the coils first wiTh thick primary low resistance, then i'll put secondary "o" coils cw & ccw.


Regards
Cc

Bingo. :-*  Plus narrow timings , plus ( ..............) =OU :-)

crazycut06

Quote from: forest on January 14, 2013, 03:23:46 AM

Bingo. :-*  Plus narrow timings , plus ( ..............) =OU :-)


Hi forest,
You know more than us here, i know you have surpass the very basic of this, your expertise is badly needed hehehe.... ;D
Regards
Cc