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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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nat1971a

Hi again,

Just had an after thought about the difference in the number of poles in the circuit controller "4" for Tesla and "24" for ERfinders rotary switch.

Well Tesla would be running his AC generator at high voltage which would result in higher rpm and the requirement for less poles to achieve resonance.

Compared to ERfinders which is presumably running at a much lower voltage, for example 12 volts, which would result in lower rpms (compared to Tesla's) and would thus require more poles in the rotary switch to achieve resonance.

Regards,

Nat

orosado

Quote from: barbosi on March 15, 2007, 10:59:21 AM
If anyone still paying attention to this thread, did you figured out why there are four secondaries and only two primaries? In fact the question is "why only two primaries? why not four, or 12 or 24?"

Regards.

Hello Barbosi,

Erfinder tells me that this motor has two of these Tesla Transformers (Patent #593138). This is not a Tesla Coil, it is a Tesla Transformer and it is not wound like a flat spiral as shown in the patent. He also said he has already explained this. That is all I know.

Regards,
Omar

nat1971a

Hi Barbosi,

If I understand the meaning of neutral (void) correctly. Then when the 4 magnets are connected in series then it creates 4 points of neutral (void). i.e where the magnets connect. I have drawn red circles around what I understand to be the neutral points in the attached diagram.

I guess this also applies to the battery then as indicated by ERfinder. There is a positive , a negative and neutral.

Hence an efficient machine may as well "collect" from the 4 points of the neutral.

I hope this helps. Anyone care to confirm this.....

Regards,

Nat

nat1971a

Hi Again,

Thanks ERfinder.

I found this interesting website that appears to illustrate this neutral point in a magnet. If I understand correctly then neutral, VOID, and bloch wall are all the same thing.

The only thing is I thought the north pole was positive and the south pole negative. But this shows it the other way around. Anyway I guess it helps to clarify the neutral point in the middle of the magnet. As it appears that this is a very important point to understand.

Below is the reference to the entire article - also very interesting
http://www.dprins.demon.nl/convergence/9919.html


Anyway this brings me to my next interesting comparison of
1. Tesla patent 464,666 Electromagnetic motor
2. Tesla patent 568,176 Apparatus for producing electric currents of high frequency
3. ERfinders magnet ring.

If one compares the shape of the coils in patent 464,666 with the magnets in 568,176. They appear to be one and the same.

In 464,666 we have what appears to be 6 coils, each in the shape of a horseshoe magnet. Which will give a configuration of NSNSNSNSNSNS. What is also shown here is that the coils appear to just touch each other (This is important according to ERfinder - he said that "the magnets must touch and their poles void"). Also interesting is where Tesla had placed some of his coils namely N1 and S1. They are placed at the neutral points. Actually it appears that the all the coils are placed in all the neutral points as there are neutral points in the middle of the magnets (coils) as well.

Now if we compare this to 568176 we have 4 horseshoe shaped magnets also in a NSNSNSNS configuration. But the only difference is that the magnets do not appear to be touching but are very close to each other. Is this possibly due to the fact that the magnet shapes and sizes of the time were very limited. Highly likely I would think.

And again ERfinders magnet ring is also in A NSNSNSNS configuration.

So to summarise my observations to date are:-
1. We have Tesla constructing rotors using a NSNSNSNS configuration with magnets or coils and they are either touching each other or are very close to each other.
2. We have Tesla constructing coils and placing them at the neutral points
3. This correlates to ERfinders schematic and postings.
4. And also we have Tesla constructing a segmented circuit controller that appears to be the same size as the rotor to control the number of pulses

Regards,

Nat

nat1971a

Hi again,

I think at this stage it is appropriate to refine the definition of Neutral in relation to magnets and coils.

Neutral , void and bloch wall appear to be the same thing.

When does it occur? Well it occurs when two magnets are joined together in a NSNS configuration. The SN in the middle cancel out and become neutral and you are left with a N & S at each end.

It also occurs in each magnet naturally at the mid point between the N & the S poles.

So for example if we connect 8 square magnets to together in a we get NSNSNSNSNSNSNSNS in a straight line. All the intermediary N & S poles cancel and become neutral and we are left with N at the start and S at the end.

So if we connect 8 magnets together to form a ring as in the configuration above all the N & S poles cancel out and we are left with only neutral points. The neutral points being where the magnets connect and in the middle of the magnets. This principle appears to also applies to coils.

Regards,

Nat