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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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allcanadian

Hello again
I have been reading the posts and patents and I think these circuits are not about gaining anything, but not losing what we put in. In teslas patent 4464666, the primaries E are transformer primaries for the secondaries F and G. Tesla states the purpose of this is to reduce the capacitance needed to establish a phase difference of 90 degrees between primary and secondary windings. For me this means when the primaries peak the secondaries are at zero potential and then when the secondaries peak the primaries are at zero potential. So in the last few months here I have been teaching myself to assume the opposite of what we do, to ignore our terminology, which is by no means easy. Maybe erfinders thoughts and others have finally broken me. At this point of confusion it seems logical that tesla would add energy where it would seem to do nothing, to have the primary peak at a point of neutrality a void in the center of the inductor or bloch wall in a magnet. I would do this only to ensure the secondaries drive the process, charging the capacitor in the process, 90 degrees later the Bemf or field reversal could charge the primary thus the source, Im just guessing here as usual.
I think maybe my perception of things has changed, Im starting to see a magnetic field as a solid, something immobile, not really a source of anything. It's everything else moving into it, everything around it in absolute chaos. This electricity thing is out of whack as well, all this terminology trying to define every aspect,every nuance of what seems to be motion, a chain of events , Im not sure why we have to make everything so complicated, who are we trying to impress?. Well Im starting to ramble, those are my 2 cents anyways.

Best of luck
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

brnbrade


Charlie_V

I guess my last post was a little wordy (haha all my posts are :( ).  What I meant was, coils G and F are connected such that they form one long wire.  However, they are coiled in a way so the magnetic flux is contained within themselves.  I think this is the "special" point Erfinder referred to, F and G are connected to make a single wire but there is a magnetic flux that is interchanged (looped) between them.  Referring to my drawings, the flux loop is drawn in the first picture.  The second picture shows the rotating field at the same instant of time as in the patent. 

I am not sure if parasitic capacitance and self capacitance are the same thing.  I usually hear of parasitic capacitance found from stray charge in circuits - I suppose self capacitance is the same... never really thought about that.  Anyway, whatever it's called (self or parasitic), this would be important from the stand point of resonance, since it would determine the optimum driving frequency.  I highly disagree with you as far as the speed.  This motor should be able to operate at much higher frequencies than a few hertz.  I would suspect a few hundred hertz unloaded (aka 10,000 RPMs or higher with permanent magnets attached to the rotor).   

But I do fully agree with you as far as the placement of the secondary capacitor (H). Its purpose is to make the current in F and G 90 degrees out of phase with E.  I'm just trying to view this from the point of power transfer and resonance. 

<Added> I just wanted to say that I don't think that the clockwise/counter clockwise direction is that important.  It is how you coil the wires so the magnetic fields develop like Tesla drew in the patent.  You could make the wires go completely clockwise if you wanted, you would just have to pay close attention to which way the coils were wound on the metal rods (A and B). 

Charlie_V

brnbrade,

I like you drawings, they are good.  But what you have labeled as "secondarie" is really the primary (E).  And your "primarie" coils are really the secondaries (F and G). 

You know what, I over looked this!  Has anyone else noticed how the secondaries (F) are wrapped around the primary (E)?  The primary is at the bottom... how strange.  Erfinder's circuit has the primary around the secondary, Tesla is doing the opposite.  I wonder if it makes a difference? 

Anyway, I'm off to bed.  Later guys,
Charlie

brnbrade

Charlie_V


thank you for the patch.

I will redraw the graphs, before somebody gets confused.