Free Solid State/mechanical energy

[nat1971a]

Not sure...anyway it seems obvious that he has chosen a configuration that produces neutral points

[brnbrade]

Hi there.

Well. + or - like this

1 - The Eddy currents induces the secondary.
2 - Secondarys looped in HV e HC.
3 - The devices basically is a transformer

Regards

[Charlie_V]

Makes sense to me.  I'm beginning to see the key in having this neutral point.  There is a generator I'm building at present.  I've figured out that the key element in my generator needs to be magnetically saturated to a point where the field does not radiate out yet outside magnetic fields will not effect it (a neutral point).  If I can successfully rig this, my generator should operate the most efficiently.

I know this is a little off topic but it does fit within the "neutral point" discussion.  I never really thought about reactive power in this way but your right.  The power is nulled, which is why the average power is zero.  It is very interesting to think about.  I'm seeing it as the power is being shared between the load and source.  Everything we use today only takes from the source, it doesn't share.  Hehe, the world is always better when you share!

[Maximumgravity1]

Ok, my turn....

I have been trying to keep up with everyone, not sure I am doing such a good job - so I made a series of diagrams that I think helps me express my point, and maybe will help some others visualize things in a new way...

I look at the system as a series of induced fields.  The idea as stated in line 45 and follows (BTW the PDF I have is smuged in these lines, so I am deducing missing words).
"I have devised a means which renders practicable both the above described plans or methods, (those being 90? phase shift through a condensor compared to the source AC, and a means to make an affordable/practicle sized/cost condensor to do the above) and by which I am enabled to obtain an economical and efficient alternating-current motor, my invention consisting in placing a condenser in the secondary or induced circuit of the motor above described and raising the potential of the secondary currents to such a degree that the capacity of the condenser, which is in part dependent on the potential, need be quite small."

So to me, the idea he is trying to convey is how to make an economical 90? shift of phase?  He states this is done by raising the potential, and thereby reducing the size and capacity of the condenser.

I see this happening in a few ways, but it is still murky, as I get lost in how the condenser works.  In my illustrations I tried to maintain flow of thought by reducing North South - and used color coding for alternating polarities of field, since it is obvious that the fields change continually, simultaneously, and at different places in the circuit.  Moreover, since he stated in lines 16-20 "(To artificially obtain quarter phase difference)...in which the action or operation is dependent upon the inductive influence upon a rotating armature of independent field magnets or coils exerted succsesively and not simultaneously." the armature can be either coils or magnets - it seems it doesn't much matter - as the field operating on them is doing the "magic".  So in my illustration, I left the armature coils colored to represent alternating fields.  I have a feeling there is something to do with the "dwell" time of the armature through the fields, but I can't get that far along yet.

Also, I took some inspiration from brnbrade's illustrations, as I think I see what he is getting at with his dashed lines.  I see a 90? difference between the "intermediate" poles of the secondary ("G" circuit) and the "primary" poles ("F" circuit).  I tried to illustrate this a bit more clearly, and I think it is awfully coincidental that the arrangement of the coils only works in one direction (per polarization - see the illustrations) and the same 90? phase shift "flowing through the condenser" (lines 28 & 29).  I also illustrated only one set of 90? phases for clarity, but they can be mentally visualized  throughout the remainder of the circuit.

Lastly, I made up some arbitrary movements of the armature.  I don't have any idea how far the armature would move, I just took a random guess by using the "just eyeball it method".  I hope this doesn't cause confusion by being way wrong.

Anyway, it would be best if someone could help complete the diagrams by explaining what happens to the circuit through the condesnor when the AC phase shifts 180? opposite.  There has to be something going on with the F & G circuits when the condenser discharges - especially if they contain residual charge, or are being re-induced by the armature.

[Maximumgravity1]

One more thing I forgot to mention, since the primaries ("E") are wound with coarse wire (line 79) and the Secondaries ("F" and "G") are wound with "long fine-wire coils" (line 82-83) it is apparent that we are stepping up the "potential" every time the primaries are energized.  Moreover, it makes me wonder what happens to the core when the "G" circuit is energized, then energizes the "F" circuit and energizes the "E" coils.  This is the same core running through all coils (primary and secondaries).  It does remind me of Leedkalnins PMH.  The only difference (aside from more poles) when the energy flows out the end of the core towards the armature, instead of having a soft iron core conecting all the "U" ends, it has an alternating magnetic field.  It makes me wonder if the armature field is the same polarity as the core field, does the energy from the core flow into the armature - without a polarity change - and get "looped" in the armature windings and maintain the PMH integrity?  Does this make the armature windings the equivalent of an electro-magnetic "keeper" that has the ability to change polarity on the fly without changing the polarity of the original core charge?  Just pure speculation, but it does make me wonder what is going on between the armature and the core/coils.