Free Solid State/mechanical energy

[Charlie_V]

I'm confused, what is everyone confused about?  Are you having a hard time seeing how the magnetic fields of the coils interact with the rotor?

Erfinder, explain what you think is mainstream?

I have some questions for you actually.

1.) Is each individual coil (the secondary 144 inch coils) suppose to be 1/4 wavelength or is all 4 together suppose to make a 1/4 wavelength?

2.) I've seen you say that each coil makes a plate of a capacitor.  Do you mean that each transformer (primary wrapped around a secondary) will produce a voltage during their coupling that will add like charged capacitors do in series?

3.) You seem to ignore magnetic fields, why? 

[nat1971a]

Hi All,

Please find below some references & thoughts from a non mainstream view.

Reference The Physics of the primary state of matter - C Davson
P70
Nature?.functions vacuum on vacuum, or stressfield on stressfield ? the crossing of the energies ? and that this is the only method nature has of producing any form of force or energy, or transformation of same to another condition.

So vacuum is a stressfield occasioned by two components which operate inwards, where the form permits- that is, when it is spherical ? towards a centre, but always inwards. P58

Glowing magnetism is densified vacuum or the fundamental electro-magnetic force functioning as radiation or as a stressfield.

Vacuum is really the mother of magnetism p57 Glowing magnetism is the true vacuum.

The ether is a static potential composed of two components which, when polarized, form a force of attraction; magnetism?.thus the ether is magnetism in the latent state; when polarized, the hydrogen component is magnetism in the glowing state, or glowing magnetism. This is the fundamental force.p56

The sun was formed by compression or densification of the ether on a point of inequality, in other words, a force of suction, and thereby exerts attraction upon the ether owing to the potential difference between the two; the ether is thus drawn in, catalysed and forced out again as radiant energy. The sun is therefore a suction and force pump;?two likes in unlike condition is the greatest force which can exist in nature. P54-55

P62
Let it be clearly understood that in the primary physics the atmosphere is not the air, but a stressfield ? the earths stressfield is the earths atmosphere, likewise with every heavenly body......

there are more references on stressfields to look at than I have presented here.........

In summary there are two perspectives that can be applied to Tesla?s patent. Either vacuum on vacuum or stressfield on stressfield. I prefer vacuum on vacuum as I understand this well. It appears Erfinder prefers stressfield on stressfield.


So I shall start with a quote from barbosi------------
What is "pumped" in coils F, is "sucked" in coils G.

And a quote from myself---------
If we have a neutralised current (the neutralised armature coils) that is rotated fast as we have here in Tesla's patent. This then attracts (sucks) the neutralised ether to it like a whirlpool would suck in all the water. This would compress the ether to a point where it must radiate it out. This radiated out neutralised current is transferred to the neutralised secondary via resonance (another vacuum that sucks & pumps) .

So if you put these two statements together you have a vacuum on vacuum.

Regards,

N.

[midnight_blue]

To quote charlie_v - "Holy crap balls."
I couldn't sleep, this was keeping my mind occupied. So.... erfinder is this correct? Is this what you seek from us?
Hot and Cold, ELECTRIC EFFECTS, Electrostatic. Can it be this little transformer motor is producing the thing we all know as LIGHTNING? Is this Teslas perfection of it? And faster than the speed of LIGHT, based on erfinders formula.

185000/2000000=.0925 X 1/4 = .023125 so just slightly less than 2,000,000 this right??

Regards,
Mark

[Charlie_V]

Just try thinking for yourself!  I believe I have said on more than one occasion that it is advisable to put everything you think you know on the sidelines, as it will not help you at present, it will only hinder your comprehending the new information.  Later when you comprehend, and have transformed this new information into knowledge, you can refer back to that which mainstream has given you!

Mainstream is nothing more that the source of information we collectively call knowledge.  What we call knowledge is not knowledge it is information!  Knowledge reveals cause, describes cause, explains cause!  At present we don't know the cause of ANYTHING!  We are masters of effect only!!!

Ha!  Couldn't have said that better, indeed all we are, are the masters of cause and effect.

I have some questions for you actually.

1.) Is each individual coil (the secondary 144 inch coils) suppose to be 1/4 wavelength or is all 4 together suppose to make a 1/4 wavelength?


I thought that it was clear that our focus is the first patent?  What does this have to do with the patent?

Well, this would actually apply to the patent as well.  Since each coil can be represented in the same way (not forgetting the capacitor).  And would help with optimum performance of the secondary.  So you think you could answer this - pretty please <puppy dog face>?

2.) I've seen you say that each coil makes a plate of a capacitor.  Do you mean that each transformer (primary wrapped around a secondary) will produce a voltage during their coupling that will add like charged capacitors do in series?

You have been taught that the secondary currents are good for nothing other than sparks...this is the biggest lie you have ever been sold!

Concentrating on what I have bolded, I assume you mean the secondary currents as being the current developed in the secondary?  The circuits that we are looking at, the methods that it appears to me, we are trying to apply, I had an idea of using when I first started reading about Tesla and his books. 

At the time I was in a power electronics class.  The professor was actually talking about "RLC filters" and "transformers" and how you convert low frequency currents to high frequency to reduce component sizes, using resonance to allow max power through - BLAH BLAH.  I drew a schematic of Tesla's magnifying transformer (using mainstream terms this is a parallel RLC circuit coupled to a series RLC circuit).  I didn't tell him what it was for, I just showed it to him and asked what would this do.  He laughed and said never do that, that is a bad thing, that creates a short.  So, not only was I told it was good for nothing, I was told NEVER do it!!

I will not waste our time trying to explain to you why, others have done a good job of this already, you just have to know where to look, and most importantly know what to look for!  I realize that I still haven't answered your question!  So try this on for size.  The secondary windings are extensions of the capacitor plates!!!  lol....

AND

Electricity on the other hand moves in two directions simultaneously!  These two opposite directions are opposite to one another meaning they travel 180 degrees from the neutral point dividing them!  One direction is the direction of compression, and the other is the direction of expansion.  What must be visualized is that these two can move in the same forward direction and still be moving in opposite directions!  How?  Dual Vortex!!!

Hahaha, no you answered the question - in the first quote.  I see now what this is doing, although I have for some time.  You are not viewing the coils and capacitor as a separate entity, you see them as THE SAME element.  What I haven't thought about is your view point - I see it now (at least I think I do ha).  I never really thought about it in this "light" (yea it was a corny joke). 

The magnetic fields are stationary (this doesn't mean they don't oscillate).  You make the magnetic field "fixed" so to speak (which I never thought about but it is), and you focus on the electrostatic oscillation in the secondary.  Yes I see, the coils in this case become capacitor plates - very interesting notion.  The current in the secondary circuit is tremendously huge - its designed to be. 

This capacitor plate can then be viewed as almost like a slinky.  Slinkies expand and contract.  As part of the overall secondary circuit is Contracted, there is an expansion part.  It goes back and forth expanding and contracting, the duel vortex that you talk about - I'm not seeing it as a whirl pool though, I'm seeing it as a slinky.  Let me redraw this!

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Charlie

Again what you are saying makes sence. What would determine the size of a capacitor, or would the secondary cols and the whole circuit need to be calculated out prior to the capacitor being sized? Trying to stay main stream, just the new way of looking at this. makes me wonder how the whole puzzle comes together.


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