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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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wattsup

So when the rotary switch is open, the primaries turn the rotor, then when the rotary switch closes, its shorts the primaires (and the cap) and BEMF goes backwards through the cap, and the cap discharges HV into the secondaries (and into the battery) to keep the rotor moving.

Maximumgravity1

So from Erfinders latest clues, it appears that the potentials, or differences in potentials is a key.  To parlay this into the 464,666 patent, this means that our coils are doing little more then creating those potential differences.  We are stepping up the potential of the fields that the coils are creating.  This much I see as "fact", the next part is supposition, thinking outloud.

My "guesswork" part of this is we are then  "collapsing" (or changing polarity of, or "breaking connection with the source of") those fields - now with higher potential differences from what they started - and those fields become self perpetuating water hammers.  The fields will continue to shift polarity and increase the frequency, as each successive shift adds BEMF, which adds to the "stream" (potential, force) and helps create a greater potential on the opposing coils (or condenser).  When it gets back to the primary coil, when that field "collapses" the BEMF is forced down the primary leads as well, back towards the source.  From this aspect, the BEMF is "feeding" the source - again with increased potential from what it began.  As the source can't take more then it can store - it takes only what it can.  Therefore, no overunity - but apparent unity seems to be achieved.  The source can only take what it needs, the remainder of the BEMF should continue to flow towards alternating "voids" as it is seeking its own "level" - someplace it can deposit all of its self with equal or greater potential then itself.  Since it is negative discharge - and repulses everything - it needs a positive charge which is greater then itself, to absorb it, and discharge a greater negative charge.  This seems to be the function of the void.

So the real question, as per Barbosi's recommendation - the one simple question at this point - what happens to the field when the current alternates?

Maximumgravity1

Here is another simple question:


"It is well known that the higher the frequency or potential difference of the current the smaller the capacity required to counteract the self-induction;"

Why??

THis almost seems counterintuitive.  Higher frequency - doesn't this mean higher potential?  Is there less self-inductance with higher potentials?  Why would a greater difference equate to need for less capacitance??

Grumpy

When you get down to the nitty gritty - there are only the potentials and the differences between them.

Higher frequency implies a faster rate of change - not a higher potential.
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allcanadian

Damn, why is erfinder always so right!
I think it's coming together now, erfinder said we should share our thoughts here in the forum and it seems everytime I do this, when I read my posts and the responses-- or lack of them, I see something new.
So let's take a fresh view at teslas patent.

We will use a single element of teslas motor below for reference.
We have a transformer- Primary E and secondary F
We have a secondary circuit- Primary/secondary transformer E/F, a capacitor and a secondary coil G.
On the surface most would see this as just another circuit, but now I see this as much more.

My new understanding is based on the last few pages of posts and Victor schaubergers machines.

EMF- electrical pressure, positive potential
BEMF- electrical vacuum, negative potential
Magnetism- static field, electrostatic pressure, positive potential
Diamagnetism- static field, magnetic vacuum, negative potential

So using this let's examine the circuit.
The primary E needs a sharp EMF pulse to produce a magnetic field and interact with the rotor, but it's primary purpose may be to have the magnetic field collapse producing a Bemf in the secondary transformer coil F. This High voltage(electrostatic negative potential) produces diamagnetism in the secondary coil F expelling the magnetic field and in the same instance it moves towards the capacitor charging it, this charging of the capacitor pushes the field from the opposite plate of the capacitor which travels to secondary coil G inducing a magnetic field in that coil.
So we have this electrostatic field in the secondary circuit moving back and forth, inducing magnetism in one coil and expelling magnetism in the other.

Now lets use the following statement all of us have read over and over to describe what may happen.
Quote
"Positive charge attracts positive charge, and expels negative discharge.  
Negative discharge repels both negative discharge and positive charge."

                                   The Universal One

Positive Charge = Paramagnetism = EMF
Negative Discharge = Diamagnetism = BEMF


"Positive charge attracts positive charge, and expels negative discharge"
A positive charge EMF attracts magnetism and expels diamagnetism.
Negative discharge repels both negative discharge and positive charge."
A negative discharge repels Diamagnetism and magnetism.
So if there is no diamagnetism and no magnetism what is there? nothing

So something weird is going on here, If a negative discharge Bemf voids the transformer coils then the secondary circuit may not alternate as we see it , but everything on one side of the secondary F, both (+) and (-) may be pushed in the opposite direction towards G like a compression wave.

This is still very confusing but I think it's moving in the right direction.

WOW! I just got this so it's an edit, here's the riddle?
What do you call a coil or inductor that has neither magnetism (+) charge nor diamagnetism (-)charge?
A Capacitor---- an empty capacitor.
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