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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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barbosi

The only thing I see in both patents, 685957 and 685958 is that the top armature of capacitor C (T) is exposed to a "positive charge" (ex. 685958 - par. 100):

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As the rays or supposed streams of matter generally convey a positive charge to first condenser-terminal...

Then this voltage cumulated in capacitor is "chopped" with device "d". Is this how Tesla generates BEMF from radiant energy (solar rays)?
It looks pretty obvious in fig.2 from pat 685958.

allcanadian, if you still got your setup, this your chance to power your fridge. Modify it as per fig.2 - pat 685958, and put a hamster to run inside the wheel t'.


EDIT: On a second thought, if that "positive charge" is allowed to pass through rotary switch (ON) and "p" to ground, then when the switch goes OFF, the capacitor gets charged by BEMF... Painful to have such simple circuit and not to be sure how it works.
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Maximumgravity1

I am still reading through this and digesting it all.  However, it is apparent that in the 685957 and 685958 patents, the electricity flowing from the sun to the earth indicates that we are back to the Chickens analogy.  The positive and negative charges are opposite sides of the same coin.  That is the reason we can get electricity to flow through the circuit.  That is the reason charge will store in the condenser.  The sun and earth are the opposite manifestations of each other.  One is the radiative, the other is the generative, one the expansion, the other the compression.  It is also becoming apparent, one can be used as the anode, the other as the cathode.

As for the remainder of Erfinder's post, of how all these patents tie in together, I am still not sure.  The nature of the choking coil is the one that is baffling me.  I see the mainstream definition of a choking coil is a coil of low resistance and high inductance used in electrical circuits to pass direct current and attenuate alternating current.  I see some connections here in thinking that the primary is the source of radiant energy (DC) and the secondary is acting as the plate "P" in the patents.  I also see that 512340 patent is causing the secondary (in our other patents) to act as the "B" conductor in 512340.  This implies to me a step-up in energy, plus with the choking coil having high inductance, the ability to use lower potentials can be stepped up to higher potentials in a singular unit, while providing more "bang for the buck" upon field collapse.  Still sorting it out, but this is the blur of thoughts I am starting to see.  As always, I could be way wrong.  I just need to talk through my thoughts to help organize them and see if anyone can fill in where I am falling short.

The underlying thread I am taking from all of these is self-inductance, capacitance and collapsing/changing of fields.  It seems we need to establish a good foundation in how all these interact, and what they do in circuits to truly unlock Tesla's thoughts.

allcanadian

It should be noted that Teslas patents are like block diagrams, they give a general outline of the device, but there is nothing simple about them.

The only thing that I suggest you take note of is that Tesla is simply showing us how he is charging a capacitor with what he is calling radiant energy!  Look no further than that, this is all that I want you all to consider!!!

This is the very heart of the matter, in the patents and from articles I think Tesla believed he was harnessing energy from space, only later did he understand he was harnessing the power of transformation. That is to create the conditions for something to turn something into it's opposite, this opposite returning to it's source unhindered. The opposite just refers to the dominant field (-) not (+).
He is showing us how to charge a capacitor the right way. You don't use postive current to charge a capacitor, you use a negative discharge, in this way you can use a smaller capacitor. This capacitor and the primary coil oscillate with high potential/high frequency current, the secondary coils raise the potential to make it more efficient.
The energy oscillating in his circuits needed to be high so using the simple formula P= V x A, we can say it would be much more efficient to use the highest potential attainable to reduce the amperage flowing for any given power level.
We have yet to understand how nature moves energy so efficiently, erfinder has given us part of the answer.

I should clarify my point further, Would it be more efficient to power an electromagnet with 6000 volts or 12 volts, the same energy flowing as dictated by P= V x A?.
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barbosi

I past again through 685958, and Tesla is saing clearly:

1. For the armature of capacitor going aerial:

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As the rays or supposed streams of matter generally convey a positive charge to first condenser-terminal...

2. For the armature going to the ground:

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I usually connect the second terminal to the ground, this being the most convenient way of obtaining negative electricity, dispersing with the necessity of providing an artificial source.

In my humble opinion, dispersing = expansion and explosion.

A quick remainder from Erfinder:

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Positive Charge is associated with compression and implosion, Negative Discharge is associated with expansion, and explosion!!!

What Is the preferred method of charging a capacitor?
On armature (aerial) exposed to positive charge and the other (ground) to negative discharge.

What do you think?

PS: Where a lightning occurs? In a "capacitor" with ruptured dielectric?
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nat1971a

Hi All,

"Positive charge attracts positive charge and expels negative discharge."

If I understand this statement correctly it can be rephrased as follows:-

positive charge implodes upon itself (implosion) and expels negative discharge by the process of (explosion).

Cheers

N.